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QPR999 said:
It's coming down thick and fast here in Esher and has already settled. I think I made the right decision to not go to the game tonight. The drive there and back would've been difficult.

What's happening at the airport Stainesy?
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Just got home from what I expected was gonna be a nightmare shift but turned out to be a breeze.
Hardly any snow settled at all, lots of flights canx in anticipation and snow ploughs with dozens of people ready to clear any obstruction.
Think we would of been 'damned if we do, damned if we dont' so pleased we took a bit of initiative and were proactive in what could of been a challenging night.
And I got to see our victory on TV :)
Life is good
 
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Staines R's said:
Just got home from what I expected was gonna be a nightmare shift but turned out to be a breeze.
Hardly any snow settled at all, lots of flights canx in anticipation and snow ploughs with dozens of people ready to clear any obstruction.
Think we would of been 'damned if we do, damned if we dont' so pleased we took a bit of initiative and were proactive in what could of been a challenging night.
And I got to see our victory on TV :)
Life is good
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It did look rather unpalatable for an hour or so and the forecast prevented my attending a victorious away win unfortunately.
 
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QPR999 said:
It did look rather unpalatable for an hour or so and the forecast prevented my attending a victorious away win unfortunately.
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Sorry you missed the match Nines. It was wonderful to watch us playing in that inspired manner.

I recall back in the day in UK driving on crossply or radial tyres with RWD my Dad was always quite concerned driving in snow conditions , or the much dreaded and feared "black ice".

Here in Atlantic Canada for winter driving (November - March) most vehicles are shod with soft rubber winter designated tires (with snowflake symbol), opposed to harder rubber all season & summer tyres. Some use aggresive mud & snow tyres (M&S), often studded, but still hard rubber, especially in frigid conditions, and many vehicles are also AWD/4WD, so the weather conditions you described do not necessarily create the white knuckles on the steering wheel experience, it's just par for the course here.

The drawback of studded tryres is that they are only legal on the road here in New Brunswick October 15th and May 1st, and in dry road conditions affect braking distances since you are basically "skating" on the studs.
 
As they so often do, the met office got it wrong and exaggerated everything.
It snowed quite heavily here in South Oxfordshire for about an hour at around 430pm. The forecast was for heavy snow to continue for a couple of more hours. That never happened!
Worse up north, but it's ridiculous how the forecasters exaggerate.
Also, today's media make such a fuss over a bit of winter when we had this most years when I was younger.
 
I am shocked as after the BREXIT vote I thought the UK wouldn't have any more cold European continental weather.
It needs to be added to the Article 50 negotiations. :)
 
Serious questions. Has anyone changed to winter tyres?

In Poland it is a routine process. Everybody has two sets of tyres and you switch every late autumn and early spring. It makes a hell of a difference. Great on snow and of course less effective on ice.
 
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hey i love ellers he says it just as he sees it but kidology are the great weapons of both warnock and holloway,iether one could make the play offs this season and im betting on hollow legs to get us straight up
hes my olly i love him more than anyone else does i want his babies,so if ellers critisizes him it really hurts me so i will respond with aggression and nasty ness
all we need now is he to re call the jet and we are going up
 
QPRski said:
Serious questions. Has anyone changed to winter tyre?

In Poland it is a routine process. Everybody has two sets of tyres and you switch every late autumn and early spring. It makes a hell of a difference. Great on snow and of course less effective on ice.
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Virtually no one, except people in the Highlands of Scotland, would use winter tyres here Ski, there reallly isn't any snow most years. I'd guess many people wouldn't know what a winter tyre is.

What I enjoy in icy conditions is watching BMW and other rear wheel drive motorists try to cope with it. But not as much as 4WD drivers in the US, who think their vehicles give them immunity from the conditions. I once drove from Chicago to Indianapolis in a blizzard because the flights were cancelled. A 3-4 hour journey took 7, but wasn't too bad. Every 500 yards a large SUV had slid into the ditch by the side of the road or onto the thankfully very wide central reservation because they thought they didn't have to drive slow and steady, brake very gently, and steer into skids, because their 4WD made them great bad weather drivers. Outstanding.
 
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QPRski said:
Serious questions. Has anyone changed to winter tyres?

In Poland it is a routine process. Everybody has two sets of tyres and you switch every late autumn and early spring. It makes a hell of a difference. Great on snow and of course less effective on ice.
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Same here in Canada, I have two sets of rims for both our vehicles mounted with all season & winter tires.

My extra alloy rims were bought on Kijiji for $50 a set of four, and one set already had good winter tires mounted on them.

My 2005 Chrysler 300 is also the AWD model with a Mercedes Benz transmission, providing 30% drive to front wheels and 70% to rear. Normally the 300 is a RWD vehicle, so challenging to drive in winter conditions.

Even on dry roads, in frigid temperatures the softer rubber dedicated winter tires provide much better grip.

The "all season" name on tires is rather misleading and these are okay for Spring/Summer/Fall driving, but definitely inferior for winter driving. In the Province of Quebec it is the law to have dedicated winter tires installed for the period November to March.

Many people also use aggressive treaded hard rubber M&S tires that are studded, so good in deep snow, and the studs are great on ice, but noisy on dry roads and diminish braking capability.
 
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QPRski said:
Serious questions. Has anyone changed to winter tyres?

In Poland it is a routine process. Everybody has two sets of tyres and you switch every late autumn and early spring. It makes a hell of a difference. Great on snow and of course less effective on ice.
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But winter tyres are still a hell of a lot better than summer tyres on ice. Yes same in Norway. Don't understand why it is not required by the insurance companies in the UK where there is often ice too.
 
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sb_73 said:
Virtually no one, except people in the Highlands of Scotland, would use winter tyres here Ski, there reallly isn't any snow most years. I'd guess many people wouldn't know what a winter tyre is.

What I enjoy in icy conditions is watching BMW and other rear wheel drive motorists try to cope with it. But not as much as 4WD drivers in the US, who think their vehicles give them immunity from the conditions. I once drove from Chicago to Indianapolis in a blizzard because the flights were cancelled. A 3-4 hour journey took 7, but wasn't too bad. Every 500 yards a large SUV had slid into the ditch by the side of the road or onto the thankfully very wide central reservation because they thought they didn't have to drive slow and steady, brake very gently, and steer into skids, because their 4WD made them great bad weather drivers. Outstanding.
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I thought a winter tyre was the excess weight I put on over Christmas!
 
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QPR Oslo said:
But winter tyres are still a hell of a lot better than summer tyres on ice. Yes same in Norway. Don't understand why it is not required by the insurance companies in the UK where there is often ice too.
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Of course they are.

tt should be common sense to change the tyres for winter. The simple fact of changing, checking and balancing the wheels twice a year is a good idea in itself.

The issue may be UK temperatures. Winter tyres should bit be used at high speeds above 9C.

Anyway, I am very pleased that I do it.
 
QPRski said:
Of course they are.

tt should be common sense to change the tyres for winter. The simple fact of changing, checking and balancing the wheels twice a year is a good idea in itself.

The issue may be UK temperatures. Winter tyres should bit be used at high speeds above 9C.

Anyway, I am very pleased that I do it.
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Winter tyres simply wouldn't be economical in the UK. We hardly had a frost at all last winter. It's the same reason we don't have multiple snow ploughs on every street corner.
 
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