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  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    ...and 've no issue with that .. it might also be argued that Big Sam was also a safer option than Nigel Pearson .. personally I'm delighted that the owners had ambition beyond merely staying up ..as l'm sure you are now?
     
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    Just a quick question as we've gone off topic? Is gangsta still around?
     
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    Pearson wouldn't have progressed us like Ranieri has. The way players like Drinkwater, Vardy, Morgan etc have improved is staggering. Just my opinion of course which is what it's all about, like I said though it's all really irrelevant now. Rightly or wrongly it worked out for us
     
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    Nope
     
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    See what happens with the Mackems , though must admit they have improved... just.
     
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    For all his 'quirks' I liked Pearson, he achieved much longed for promotion for the club.The next level, well we'll never know.

    Ranieri came out of left field & to be honest I didn't know what to expect, I didn't expect to be where we are that's for sure.
     
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    People say Pearson wouldn't have progressed us... But he took us over in league one and look where he left us. Every year we Got better so I can't see why that wouldn't have been the case again

    However looking at us and Stoke, people can probably make a strong argument for changing a manager when it's going well in order to take it to the next level
     
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    Good points ed .. personally I do think Nigel would have 'progressed' us .. but I have doubts about that ever going to be to the level we are now at .. and the owners were looking for... Apart from the first game against Sunderland, when the starting line up came as a complete surprise .. but the performance completely justified it ... I have understood his tactics since and been very impressed with them .. including the use of substitutes .. Nigel never really convinced me in that way .. indeed some of his selections and tactics during poor runs left me close to incredulous .

    We will lose matches under Ranieri of course, but I do believe we have an excellent tactical mind and fantastic man manager at the helm now .. that's the big difference for me .. fully accept that others may see it differently.
     
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    Put in simpler terms Fosse Claudio has a plan b .
    Though I was initially gutted and worried when Nige left and I for one recognise all he has done , over two tenures at the helm of LCFC.
     
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    I'll put it another way Ed, he would not have progressed us at the speed Ranieri has
     
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    Probably not, but i still think we would have progressed.

    My only word of caution - remember that Ranieri's progression is still short term - technically there is chance of the honeymoon ending and it going tits up, but yes i agree it looks good!
     
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    .. look what Ranieri did at half-time today and the effect it had .. he is just great at reading games and making key decisions. .. for me that's the biggest difference to life under NP ...
     
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    Couldn't agree more. IOW, he has a Plan B! :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Honeymoon? Well over half the season gone & 1&1/2 cups....
    Like I said, loved NP but we saw Cr's plan B today, not sure about how Nige would have done it & will never knew but I do love how our team is playing arm & long may it continue !
    Forza Claudio, Forza LCFC !
     
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    I'm not saying Pearson wouldn't have progressed us, just at a lot slower pace
    It does look VERY good though.....yes indeed. Loving it
     
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    If i was to guess, i still recon we'd be in the mix in the top half with Pearson, but agree that CR has given us a better tactical game that will have earned us more points.

    I don't think Gangsta could accept that some of us saw CR as a manager that had been a runner up in the top leagues around europe for years, which some of us, including myself, was more than we could have hoped for to take us to the metaphorical "next level".
     
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  17. FosseFilberto

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    .. on the money ... Gangsta didn't leave the board because he kept being told he was wrong ... he left because he couldn't actually face up to Ranieri continually proving that to be the case ...
     
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    Couldn't disagree more.

    I am absolutely sure he didn't mind being proven wrong by Ranieri and co (why would he, we were winning with excitement), but being told that he'd got it wrong every time he logged in would have surely started to grate.


    Would you waste your time like that? I know I wouldn't.
     
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    Which you are entitled too ... you make it sound like everyone picked on every topic that he ever commented on and hounded him out ... they most certainly didn't.

    Gangsta simply refused to contemplate any possibility that Ranieri might be a better option for the club than Nigel Pearson had been and couldn't let that go - being wholly negative towards the early success we had with several disingenuous posts - which other took him to task for (and rightly so IMHO) his most prolific posting episode coming after the Arsenal defeat, when he really went to town on how Ranieri was 'ruining NP's work' - he continued this on the team prediction thread prior to the next game against Norwich City.... Ranieri dropped Mahrez for that game and we put in a really solid performance and won ... Gangsta didn't come back after that ...

    If you nail your colours to the mast and get it wrong you should have the good grace to admit to it ... if you're now saying that you would have acted in the same way then, frankly, I'm disappointed ...but I wouldn't ... I'm certainly opinionated, as most on here are.(it's a forum for debate ffs).. but if I get something wrong... and I did with Pearson in his first season back .... you just hold your hands up, admit to it, eat some humble pie, and move on ... not behave like a sulky school kid and take the football home with you.... life's too short and grown-ups deal with their differences and move on..

    ... I haven't always got on with Proud (will probably clash wiith him again in the future <laugh>) ... but I have the utmost respect for, and can't fault in any way, how he has delt with and reacted to, the loss of a manager that he held in the highest possible regard ... and I have come to respect his opinions accordingly.

    For completeness, I would welcome Gangsta back with open arm's should he wish to return ... I enjoyed many of his posts and thought he was an excellent contributor ... but he was one of the least tolerant of any to views opposing his own tbf ...

    ... as such, I wholly reject your apparent intimation that Gangsta was somehow hounded off the board because everyone (or some) ganged up on him - a 'victim' he certainly was not - one of the most outspoken and opinionated posters we have ever had..

    I take some pride in our board being one of the most open and tolerant on Not606 evidenced by the fact that we have probably invoked less bans of posters than any other.
     
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    The post I last quoted made it sound like you thought Gangsta is no longer here because Leicester are playing well and I'm just rejecting that as codswallop.

    He's Leicester through and through but there is only so much someone can take before he gets tired of reiterating arguments for arguments sake. Whether you want to believe it or not, I felt he was being hounded out. It got to the point where posters couldn't seem to celebrate our success until they had called him out.
     
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