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  1. Tel (they/them)

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    Our left back will be Rojo... he doesn't fill me with confidence at the best of times <laugh> maybe we will fetch in Darmian, we really need Shaw back.

    Should be a good match, on that side. I just hope the players treat your boys with the respect they merit, or we'll be the latest in a long line of teams to fall on Ranieri's sword and we won't have any room to recover.
     
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    I do think that that is heavily biased. Although he's absolutely brilliant, no doubt. He'd improve every side in the league.
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

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    He's the unsung hero for me, behind every good defence is a commanding, vocal 'keeper who often goes under the radar.
     
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    Admittedly biased mate, unashamedly so, I wouldn't swap him for any player in this league though, genuinely. Same can be said for David De Gea.
     
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    I think Martial will have some competition for YPOTY next season from Rashford ... provided any incoming manager doesn't send him out on loan or back to the development squad ... our own Demarai Gray may also start to raise a few eyebrows ... lad is growing in confidence every game and his run down the wing for our fourth against the Swans was brilliant - best bit - looking up when he beat the last man and measuring his perfect cross into Andy King at the back stick ...
     
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    Your best signing isn't on the pitch Fosse.

    Signing Ranieri was just a stroke of genius!

    I think many of your team will want to stay and play for him next season, irrespective of the size of the offers. They'll need to be dragged kicking and screaming out of your stadium.

    You'll be fine next year.
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

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    Agree, obviously you meant WPOTY when you were talking about Martial and Rashford, but one mistake is allowed. <ok>
     
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    Martial is an absolute favourite of mine, a proper forward. Him and Rashford are a treat to watch. Can see them being right up with the Premier League's best ever forward partnerships in years to come.
     
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    I just hope we can keep Martial mate, I hope he isn't another Ronaldo/De Gea who has a dream of playing for Real Madrid.

    It'd finish me off watching him and De Gea leave for Real Madrid.

    Finishing top 4 isn't good enough to keep players like them two, we'd need to be competing for the big two prizes regularly I think.
     
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    ... unless we poach one of them for our CL campaign next season of course <whistle>
     
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    They'll be there until they're 24 or so regardless IMO.
     
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    Have to disagree, i think Demi Gray has looked terrible in the few cameos i have seen him. Bar his 1 wonder run yesterday, hes actually not got the skills to take a player on short of the shaun wright phillips kick the ball and outpace the defender. Defensively seems to either be jogging around or steaming into tackles so a person just needs to knock the ball round him and carry on. I've not been impressed!
     
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    ... well it's all about opinions ... seems to me he has done absolutely what the manager has asked of him each time ... on the games we have won 1-0 he has come on for the last 10 or so and the opposition haven't been able to get the ball off him other than by clattering him ... can't recall SWP ever having that amount of skill ...
     
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    I'm very mixed with LVG. I think he's done great with the youth but for whatever reason he's totally reigned in your attacking instincts for a more solid approach (I still think you're defence is iffy).

    As for Martial he is incredible. My only slight criticsm of him is his end product and finishing and off the ball movement. Not saying they are bad/average as they are actually quite good but for someone who is so fast and strong and has great ability, you'd have expected him to have got more goals and assists. He always finds himself in dangerous positions because he can go past players so easily but that hasn't materialised into goals and assists!.

    Very like a young ronaldo should we say but stronger!
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

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    We will loan you Januzaj for a season as part of the deal that takes Kante to Old Trafford. <cheers>

    Please return Adnan in full working order though, preferably in top form, he's lost his way here. Thanks.
     
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    To be fair, i've seem him in 3 games, the swans game yesterday where i thought apart from his 1 super run he was jogging about, another 1 where i can't remember him having much impact and the third against Arsenal where all i saw was him losing the ball and not defending properly (allowed bellerin to get in cross to giroud).
     
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    I can't ask for much more from a 20 year old kid just finding his feet in this country, he's got about 15 goals and 10 assists for us this season. I'm surprised you highlighted things like off the ball movement, and finishing given his goal on Saturday mind, that's a bit of a head scratcher.

    Agree LVG has had a negative impact on us as an attacking side, you can't knock him defensively though, we lost our best LB, have had numerous injuries to our RB's and LB's all season, we've played a holding midfielder at centre half all season and we have the 2nd best defence in the league... it's not iffy in my opinion.
     
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    Admittedly i haven't watched Martial as much as you and yes that was a great goal on Saturday, but either he finishes with aplomb like against Everton and Pool. You forgot he's also missed quite a few from that position and he smashed one over the bar on saturday with just robles to beat. Also he's played with 27 league games and has 8 goals and 5 assists which is great for a young player and is in his first year. If you were to compare him to a seasoned pro then thats average and for someone who has looked so dangerous in every game i see him in (the amount of times hes run past the right back and is in the area is phenomenal) thats pretty poor which is why i mention his end product and finishing. Obviously that will (hopefully for you) get refined but i'm obviously comparing him to a great player rather than a youth signing. I guess when you are signed for big bucks you should get compared to big players!

    Maybe i'm being unfair on his movement as he's playing left wing and hes stuck out there but it's very rare to see him running past the last defender or moving inside. It is pretty much wait out there then receive the ball and run at the defender (nothing wrong with that). The few times i do see him roam inside, he's not like Rashford who is very good at making that run into the box past the last defender.
     
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  19. Tel (they/them)

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    Fair enough mate, your assessment of him is not unfounded, he's nowhere near the finished article but he's playing well and he's very creative. His finishing will undoubtedly improve with experience, he's not an out and out striker and he often shows the composure of a seasoned pro, but like you say, sometimes a rush of blood to the head and he might pick the wrong option.

    Like you say about LVG though, he's not letting the attackers be creative, he's stifling it a bit, maybe when he's gone we'll see players improve further. On the other hand, I think Lingard in particular has benefited hugely from LVG's disciplined approach to attack.
     
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    they have won it now...
     
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