I think that when you support one team, then it is inevitable to compare who wears the shirt now to who has worn it previously - regardless of league and supporting players. Have to say Fosse, Allan Clarke I detested. Couldnt have given a **** for our club. Only had one really good game - the FA Cup Final. Mike Stringfellow on the other hand ..... or Frank Large ..... it is endless. Nugent does work hard for the team, and can rarely be accused of not trying. The rest that you mention Fosse, were far more productive than Nuge has been. He does need to up his conversion rate, but he has also been our leading scorer for the last couple of years.
Nugent has a very good scoring record in the championship. One of the best in the league Schlupp has yet to take his chance as a striker when he has been given them. He hasnt been given many but the reason for that is Nigel has decided other players are either better equipped or more deserving then him As I have always said and proven by our league position. Nigel knows best
Agree with all you say Barwell - and similarly I didn't like Allan Clarke much as an individual ... but he was an excellent footballer ... Frank Large and Stringy were before my time although Stringy did coach me in a Summer city-wide 5 aside tournament - which our team won - trophies presented by Jimmy Bloomfield at Saffron Lane Sports stadium where the finals were held... blimey - haven't thought about that for years.
Proud - you make some fair points but your specs have always been incredibly rosey in terms of Nigel Pearson and some of our current players David Nugent's scoring record currently looks quite good - unless you analyse it closely and omit penalties ... then it's back to being quite average - as he always has been in the chance conversion department .. Schlupp has yet to take his chance - correct - he hasn't been given a proper go - but he arguably rescued our season last year with the goals he got when being put up front because our strikers (now who were they?) were sorely underperforming over a prolonged period that saw us drop from second to play-off uncertainties ... You may have 'always said' that's undeniable - you have a tendency to - but nothing has been proven - Nigel was in a similar position last season and fooked it up rather spectacularly ... or have you forgotten? You make assertions that it is absurd to compare Gary Lineker to Nugent why? ... Lineker made his debut against Oldham and was part of a successful team that shot us to promotion ... so what's absurd? ... what is absurd is to be blinded by your 'heroes' ... doesn't matter what league you play in to some extent - for a striker it's about converting chances - in the Prem you have to be even more clinical because despite having better players around you get less time and often less chances to convert ...
Gary Lineker won a World Cup golden boot, scored 48 goals for England and played for Barcelona Comparing him to Nugent is like calling Kasper crap because he doesn't match up to Peter Shilton and Gordon Banks
I think you're missing the point ... which isn't uncommon ... Gary Lineker achieved everything you have quoted AFTER he left Leicester City (unfortunately) ... but he was an excellent finisher for us both in the equivalent of the Championship and when we went up - he also did not rely on penalties ... most strikers who take penalties still score MOST of their goals from open play - Nugent's stats are currently the other way around! You rate him as a striker, I don't ... but I think he is a fair footballer at this level 9as I've said many times) - personally I wouldn't be looking to give him anything more than a rolling one year extension to his contract - because should we get to the Premier League I doubt he will feature much ... if however we stay in this division then he's not a bad player to have around - all my comments are in the context of his ability as a goal scorer. On an earlier post you quoted a list of largely poor strikers that we have had in recent times - and commented hat you'd have none of those before Nugent - I would - if Yakubu had been here and had Nugent's chances on goal last season, I think he would have fired us up - just my opinion.
I can only remember Lineker taking one penalty (in normal time). He scored it against Carlsile in a 6-0. Steve Lynex had completed a hat-trick (2 penalties) and Gary completed his hat-trick with the penalty
. you have a point ... but if he did - the one thing the bloke could always do was put it in the onion bag.
It is nice that all we have to argue about is how good Nugent is (or is not, as the case may be!). For the record, I am a big Nugent fan. I definitely wouldn't want him playing for anyone else in this division. Just as I google him to check his stats for us, this article pops up... http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/l...David-Nugent/story-20232960-detail/story.html It's almost as though he's been reading this thread
Sounds like hes making excuses a bit there regarding his goal tally and his overall target, but i don't think anyone would argue about his workrate. You can tell hes not a greedy striker, hes constantly passing and playing the ball around, rather than taking an almost impossible chance. Pearson doesn't want him wasting time leaning on the last defender anyway, Pearson takes "defend from the front" to the next level, and Nuge is a perfect fit for that.
... you seem obsessed with piggy-backs - but I for one was never on the Yaks back - he did what it said on the tin - and frankly I don't want a bunch of average Joes who give 100% - I want flair and to be entertained - and that means goals!
see #137 - as I've said over and over - no problem with him as a footballer at this level - but he lacks as a striker, and he seems to know that himself deep down.
He's a number 10 who is a more than capable Championship footballer but he's absolutely not a 'goalscorer'. If we had a 'goalscorer' to go with him, which Wood will be one day, then we'd be golden. Vardy, Nugent and Wood are all completely different players but they've all got similar goal tallies from open play this season. We're obviously not in a bad position, but we'd undoubtedly be top (and a few points clear) should Nuge have finished some of his chances. However, I think the side should be shuffled around up top because I believe that all three of our main strikers can play together. I would quite like to see a 3-5-2 with Nugent playing as one of the 3 central midfielders, but obviously a bit further ahead. Schmeichel Moore Wasyl Wes De Laet James Drinkwater Koncheskey Nugent Wood Vardy