legal defence fund

And this is the point of the arguement ...

Celtic have
SPL have (a may take action one day)
UEFA have (and may take action one day)

 

I'm sure many republican songs have nothing to do with sectarianism but your clubs asking you to stop singing songs glorifying the IRA not the Irish Republican Movement.

I don't see how theres no link between IRA songs and racism songs, IRA songs are about killing people and glorifying killing people funnily enough so are racism songs - although i doubt the BNP can claim to be as experienced in the matter as the IRA right enough.

Dev is right both subjects offend people which brings about another comparison apart from anything I'm sure 90-95% of both clubs fan have either no idea what the offensive songs are about and i believe that same percentage don't care what they are about but i do believe that the majority of Rangers and Celtic supporters are against this menace to both clubs as both clubs clearly wanting nothing to do with it as do the majority of fans. Unfortunately i don't have numbers for you because the numbers are impossible to survey/predict accurately but I'm hell of a sure that the majority is against them as posted earlier when at games you hear more songs about the club and its staff (players, managers past and present) than you hear the bile that the eejits spout.

 

Brick. Wall. Pud

 

Ok

Hun is as bad as Fenian

Both are offensive after all

 

True but i don't find either offensive neither do any of my pals and going by the use of hun on this forum i doubt theres many that disagree with me, personally Hun means a rangers fan and fenian means a Celtic fan its 2011 its just a way to refer to opposite supporters.

 

The point of the argument is about sentencing for singing

Clubs doing away with it is a separate issue

If it is gone from grounds so be it...I don't care

But I don't agree with arresting people for it

 

Your post still has no substance, I've been over it a in at least 5 different replies I'm not saying it again the wee boy was a fud end of story.

 

Calling someone a Hun or a Fenian in the street would get you arrested in certain circumstances. If you called your mates such names they would accept it as banter, but the people singing offensive songs are for the most part using these songs to cause offence, that's why they are deemed "offensive".

If people want to sing racist, sectarian or political songs let them do so in the comfort of their own homes or social clubs where they will be received favourably. People have no right to flaunt their beliefs in the face of others in an attempt to provoke them. Football grounds tend to bring out the worst in people and as much as some of the ****e we hear offends me on a personal level, I cannot control what actions people want to indulge in, I look to the law to sort that out. In this case the law has acted and nothing I have read of the case so far leads me to believe I should have any sympathy for the accused.

He either sung "Oh ah up the Ra" or he did not, I don't personally care whether he's found guilty or innocent but anyone who gives money to aid people like him needs their bumps felt.

 

The original post was about drumming up cash to defend people who are probably so ****ing stupid any case would be thrown out because they are not capable of understanding what the **** is happening.

The fund will most likely be used for some sleekit **** to take his burd away on a jolly.

Legal aid would give the wee scrote access to free legal advice or at least help him pay depending his circumstances. If the **** is too stupid at 17 years old to seek legal representation then I for one do not want this **** out on bail potentially polluting the gene pool with his flawed chromosomes.

 

From Celtic's statement today.

“Celtic´s traditions of tolerance, diversity and openness are something we hold very dear and are fundamental to the Club´s ethos.”

Who disagrees with that?

 

Let me know when you do care

When people are sent to prison for 5 years for singing the national anthem maybe?

 

Which brings us in a full circle, this is Scotland we will sing about all things Scottish if we want, **** it I'd take a jail sentence in england for singing FOS.

In the same way that Irish songs belong in Ireland where they can sing what ever they ****ing want about Ireland.

 

What exactly is your point?

 

Overall you don't care that a 17 year old was imprisoned for singing a song that is available to purchase in Scottish stores

 

He was not "Imprisoned" he was "Remanded" according to the story.

I said at the outset that there are many unanswered questions, and there still are, the most pressing is exactly why he was remanded.

Do you know why?

If not then you do not have enough information upon which to base your opinion do you? Are you going to continue to argue that he should have not been remanded for just "singing a song", when as far as everyone on here knows that is a is a lie or a half truth?

Give me more details of exactly the charges laid against him and why he was remanded and then I will say whether he has been harshly treated or not, for all I know, he attacked someone on remand and was refused bail for that offence.

 

There is no ****ing memo you ****** the BNP are a recognized political party do you think they go door to door selling cookies to fund their campaign, no they rely on good old racist donators.

Singing about murderers is an offence, its not a secret.