Look at who we were playing... Plus the inept coach only has one tactic and it was obvious.., As I said at the time it was a false dawn.The overbearing sweattie must be regretting rubbishing my prophetic comments now. Even though he isnt man enough to admit it! BTW our league position is still false. 10th-17th is where we really are.
Agreed, a few results against the relegation fodder had far too many far too excited. Good job some of us know what we are talking about.
early season players were fighting for their places and it showed because even I thought fook this lot look half decent, but then the problems ahead became very clear and I posted what I thought was happening or about to happen on here. what I could see was you had far to many squad players especially in Midfield and a coach who looked just a tad soft and didn't look like man management was his forte 2 things were clearly obvious play your best 11 week after week and make players fight to get in the team and youll have a very unhappy dressingroom with too many players not getting a look in. or Play a rotational system and try to keep as many players happy as possible. I knew TC would take route 2 he is too fooking soft players quickly learnt whats the point in giving your all and fighting for the cause if soppy bollox is going to make 3,4,5, changes anyways if I am wrong and TC does pick every week what he believes is your strongest 11 then you are doomed if you have no one better to use than Roofe just my opinion yesterday someone posted on here that at the end of last season you were 2 or 3 decent signings away from having a league winning side...... they were right
Leeds have begun their usual downward spiral. Normally they wait ‘till Christmas but Christmas seems to have come early this year.
I do, but its rather hard to sustain given that as things stand we will be down near the bottom with you. Depite our woes I think bottom four will be burton, Bolton, Wall and Sunderland. I cant see TC and Orta being here much longer. At least thats what I hope!
Hahahahaha. Overbearing? Translates as won't let you away with the shiite you spout. 'He doesn't like it up 'im', to paraphrase an old comedy standard. One tactic? Evidently not at the game, and therefore completely unable to offer any accurate comment, isn't he? We played 4-4-2 for the first time this season, but he's clearly unaware. We also played one up when defending corners for the first time this season too. But why let facts get in the way of an inaccurate psychotic rant? Here's my view of yesterday in pen pictures ... Lonergan: Solid in the box & clearly reliable positionally & for shot stopping. Let himself down quite badly in the distribution stakes. People forget that Weidwald was bought for his ability to set up quick attacks with his short & long distribution. Lonners didn't, and prolly can't. It showed yesterday. No urgency in attack. We were truly ponderous on the ball. Responsibility was left to the back 4 to distribute the ball & they chose to pass to each other 90% of the time. Lonners simply gave the ball to them, or humped it up the park. Old school. Summary? Might have improved us defensively, but lost us a big part of our offensive prowess. Jury must surely be out, as we're a completely different team with him in goal. Footnote: I like Lonners I'm happy enough (but not a fan) with WW. Hopefully have observed without bias & given match attenders something to mull over. Ayling: Normally great at attacking, but was off the boil yesterday. He was however consistent in his defending. This is not a good thing, sadly. Since day 1 he has failed to cut out most crosses. That is why almost every team targets him (unless Anita is at LB, making him a more attractive target), and yesterday was no different. Should have been more ably supported by Roofe, but wasn't. For the fist time I noticed that Roofe shows an alarming tendency to run to the middle to defend instead of helping out on the wing. Not sure if this was a new feature / error in his play, or if it was a part of the new 4-4-2 system. Cooper & Jansson: Will group them together as both similar in performance. Not quite 100% as you'd like them, but a solid, dependable partnership in the middle. I won't fault them for the goal - it was a great assist & a very good goal. Most defences would have let that in. Although solid, I still feel that something is missing with Pontus. May even be related to his lack of yellows. Perhaps over-disciplined in his control? Who knows, but he's deffo missing a spark that he had last season. I think they were really frustrated yesterday too. Both came forward more often as players were not making themselves available for passes. Pontus even had 2 (row Z ) shots! Berra: I mentioned earlier this season that although a favourite of mine, I felt that this new up-tempo team was leaving him behind. Well yesterday he looked fully in place. Sadly. Can't remember one cross getting past him, but equally can't remember him tearing down the wing & getting crosses in. Almost like he's the opposite of Ayling, if you think about it. I still think he's our best temporary LB, and should remain there until we get a proven replacement. Hernandez: Should never have started. Stopped playing about 4 matches ago. Love him on his day. Sadly, we don't have enough of 'his days'. Brilliant in a winning team, a liability in a sluggish team. O'Kane & Phillips: Again, grouping this 2. Work well as a partnership, and did so yesterday. I still don't understand why they draw so much criticism. Clearly things weren't working out yesterday with the system, as even O'Kane came forward a number of times, and had 2 shots on goal (his first ever for us?). Phillips was all over the place - in a good way. Got booked again too. Think he might be on 4 yellows now. I don't see the same commitment from anyone else in the team, the exception perhaps being O'Kane, who seems to get away with hanging on to people & pulling shirts to achieve the same thing. OK, perhaps not all the time And before anyone says it - yes, I'd love to see Viera play too - but not be breaking up this partnership. Perhaps in a middle 3 with the other 2. Klich? No, not done enough to earn it. Roofe: Heard Noel on the radio say that he had a great first half. I must have missed it. Sacko, mistakes & all, did more in his 15 mins IMHO. Lasogga: If he hadn't started in the way that he did, he most surely wouldn't be playing. Massive contribution in his first couple of games, zilch ever since. Clearly overweight & has mobility difficulties. Wins the same number of headers as Lonners. Apart from the headers, he reminds me of Matt Smith when we played him at first. Once he lost a bit of weight, he was a different player. Hopefully Lasogga will do the same, as he most certainly has skills. Saiz: Easy man of the match for me. Every time he runs with the ball, you're convinced he's going to lose it the way people barge & foul him - but he keeps twisting & turning on. His balance & ball control is uncanny. Not at his best in this 4-4-2 formation. I remember commenting that he was invisible in Austria when he played in the 4-4-1-1 second havles. He certainly wasn't invisible yesterday, but struggled in the setup. He spent so much time coming back into defence to get the ball. Didn't get a great deal of service, and didn't give a great deal either - hence the long dribbling runs with the ball trying to find space. And that brings me to the knub of the problem - Reading were great at killing space, and space is what we thrive on. Yes, we struggle when teams set out to do that - most teams do, and I include first class teams in that assessment. And that's what we've got to work on. Edit: Forgot the subs, didn't I? Sacko: Still got mistakes in him & poor decision-making, but boy, has this lad got pace. I forgot how much he terrifies defences. And he did. But as Marcos says, the touchline-hugging discipline disappeared pretty quickly. Even with his mates screaming at him to get a grip. I'm convinced some of the passes to the right were made into ridiculous space to make a point to him, but he just didn't pick up on it. Decision-making? Well, on one run, he did his usual - release the ball into the middle too early, before the attacking horde made it into the penalty area. He had a clear run at the bye-line & could have gone on to provide a penalty box but back for his team-mates who would have been arriving just in time for it. He's still a work in progress, but I'd still have him on the bench. Needs to get a lot drummed into his head to be more effective, but he's worth at leas a place on the bench for that scary pace. Grot: Nearly scored with his first kick. Still don't understand why we persist with him as a leader of the line when he's spent most of his career on the wing (and scoring from that position too). Would love to say he was brilliant. He wasn't. Was quicker than Lasogga. But then with 10 minutes training, I might be able to give Lasogga a race too. (OK, I'm exaggerating, perhaps 30 mins training ). Dallas: No time to assess, but gives me the opportunity to say that he should have started in place of Hernandez IMO. Opposition: All season, they couldn't score in a brothel. They obviously came to avoid defeat, noticeably wasting time at every opportunity - even in the first half! One of their MF even got booked for booting the ball to the other side of the park - when it was THEIR free kick! But credit to them - it was a well set up & taken goal. Friend's observation: At half time, a pal observed that he thought that we were under orders not to lose, and set up to effect this. He said that when we were attacking, we kept 5 players behind the ball at all times. Can't say I picked up on this, but I know we didn't have our usual gusto, so something wasn't working right. Anyone else care to comment on this?
Cant see the above. But let me take a guess. Cant see whats staring him in the face and a total inability to accept he is just a pompous windbag that knows **** all about anything. But uses theory and big words to blow up his own arse... We lost, never looked like winning and it is just more of the same...
You can't see it ? how do you know he posted then and which tree told you we never looked like winning ? Are all trees negative or are there any happy clappy trees ?.
"Post by ignored member" appears on the list of posts if they make the most recent post on a thread and LL doesnt post at this time of day. It was a guess on my part but from what you indicate I was right about the person and content.
Yet another blind, wholly inaccurate and poisonous load of pish. So I'm a pompous windbag, am I? This on top of you saying that, apparently, 'everyone thinks I want to be the voice of the people'. Wonder what else you're going to make up? And all because I proved beyond doubt that you're just a psychotic liar who just makes stuff up & presents it as fact. Remember why you ignored me? Yup, I asked you to prove you weren't a liar by providing the 'everyone' list. Simple as that. Then you bottled it because you'd been called out, and humiliatingly (and I can't believe it's still in print) asking me if I'd accept one name and then stop my questions. Boy how I laughed. Pathetic. So a coward & pathetic groveller as well as a liar. If you 'can't see', how did you know it was there? Do you really think we don't realise that you have another tab open as a guest? Pillock.
I read it WJ and I can tell you what Pontus is missing from his game this season. Bartley think Bartley made Pontus look better than he is
Pretty much the impression I got from the commentary, whatever the reason Pontus does not seem to dominate as he did previously.At least we seem to have the raw material to make a decent team. I am not critisising T.C. but we do desparately need leadership from somewhere.
This division is under estimated by young upcoming managers and coaches. I didn't like how Monk said at half time he gets the players to think for themselves, to discuss what went wrong and correct it, he left them to get on with it. I didn't like Thomas saying he allowed the players to pick their own captain, again it is totally wrong. Could you imagine old fashioned managers like Warnock and Sam doing this? I liked Thomas, I thought we were going places, I still like him but the jury is now out and I really haven't a clue if it is the coach or the director of football. If you have 8 out of 11 players on the pitch playing poorly it isn't an easy fix. Chippy this isn't a dig but you list over half a team who are not good enough, then you also claim the coach isn't either. How is a coach supposed to make a 'bad' player good? Maybe we do have both a poor coach and poor players, I don't believe so and I also agree with a poster yesterday who said before the season started we were just 2-3 quality signings short. I totally agree a DOF isn't the way forward and never will be in this division, it also excludes us from a host of possible replacements. Maybe Thomas has too much choice when it comes to midfield and when you have your star striker leave a couple of games into a season and your next best striker is injured (as well as new to Championship football) and you are given Grot and Lassoga and told here you go, it can't be easy. Again pre-season, formation and tactics were all set around us having Wood. For him to leave when he did it can't be an easy task for Thomas to pull it full circle in just a few weeks.
Ristac, when identify that you are 3 players short, and then 3 of your best players leave or are returned (Taylor, Bartley and Wood) that makes you 6 players short does it not?
Not sure TC would get Barca to beat the wendies. DOF is a vanity thing and won't work. Two different issues. Both need fixing IMVHO.
