likewise Doc, always value your contribution and we agree on far more than we disagree my point on the Roberts comparison was always that it was often not really a direct comparison in my view. Roberts absolutely has never been consistent enough in a Leeds shirt… but he was almost always being brought on as a replacement for Rodrigo or klich in an AM role. Joffy was competing with bamford and then James for the one striking role. Marsch playing 2 up front means every chance joffy’s game time increases now even with paddy back. My point about how young attacking talent is typically introduced in the Prem? Take martinelli at arse. A year older than joffy. Last year he got 650 mins. Joffy this year has had 550. There’s never like for like situations I know (more competition at arsenal obviously)… but he was the the first one I checked as a comparison. Joffy did great for the goal yesterday. Won and directed the header, held off his run to find space in the box. Both his goals have been from about 4 yards out which shows he knows how to get in the right place at the right time. I've given my reasons as to why i prefer him as sub rather than starter, but it isn't meant as a criticism
It probably did save us but we should have been out of sight by then. I don't know how other teams have been affected by VAR, but we certainly have been done on plenty of times.
Just saying it as it appears to the naked eye milky. We'll concede plenty under Jesse just the same a we did under Bielsa but the reasons will be different as the styles are chalk and cheese.
I agree to an extent. I do feel that teams have to work a little harder to get the goals now. The space under the current system is out wide whereas teams were just strolling through the middle at the end under Bielsa. The downside is we are not as fluid going forward under Marsch...yet. Thoughts on part zonal marking at set pieces under Marsch?
Morning all,.delighted with the win yesterday. I missed the first half so didn't see the best of it. We desperately needed those points and it doesn't matter how they come. Norwich are poor but there are no easy games and the confidence everyone will have got from that is invaluable. I think games in hand don't really count at the bottom, points on the board are key. How we perform on Friday will determine how frantic the end of the season will be. If we hold our corner against Wolves, even if we lose by the odd goal, will tell me that we can do it. I just don't want them to batter us or all the good feelings from yesterday will dwindle away.
We have conceded 5 in JMs first 3 games with 3 of those against Villa in the capitulation. Last 3 Bielsa games we conceded 16 goals. We are improving?
The current situation isn't a problem of Bielsa or Marsch, it's an issue arising from whoever authorised the change. These people own the club and make the calls, that is their prerogative. Marsch has a truncated period to get the team playing his way, not a full pre-season, but there appear to be some signs for optimism. We have 9 games left, two points a game, on average, would be good but perhaps more realistically 1 point a game will be what we get. This is really going to go down to the wire. When is Kalvin back !!!!!
Of course the styles are different Jammy- bielsa is pretty unique. So Different formations, no religious man-marking, zonal press, less width. The similarities are high energy, pressing, aggressive in transition. So the theory is, different style but some continuity in that it suits the same types of players. Not the thrust of the post though fella. Are you going to get behind marsch and give him a chance or just keep sticking the knife in at every opportunity?
We're all concerned but I don't think it's that Marsch isn't capable. For me it is the timing of the change
Zonal marking for set pieces has so far seen a massive improvement and it's what everyone was calling for Bielsa to at least try. The fact he wasn't willing to adapt and we were conceding what seemed like virtually every game was a massive failing on Marcelo's part. There is know denying that a simple change in strategy is helping the team and of course that is down to the new coach.
Not sure why you're interpreting my posts as sticking the knife in but I'll happily state my position on Jesse Marsch. Whilst ever he's the head coach of Leeds United he'll have my full support as every coach and player always does. Judging him on three games is virtually impossible but we can see already his style of play is different to what has gone before. It's also fairly obvious that without the necessary aggression his way of playing will fall short and that's my major concern. The better players at PL level will simply pop the ball off before they're tackled no matter how aggressive you are and you just end up chasing shadows as happened against Villa. Good news is we were better yesterday and the players are learning the system. What we saw was our centre half getting out to help his full back in those exposed wide areas far quicker and that definitely helped. The rest of the team then shuffle over and close off the gaps on that side but leave us vulnerable to overloads on the opposite flank. The key to our survival this season will be results against the mid table sides like Saints, Palace, Wolves & Brighton. If this system works against those teams then absolutely brilliant as that's what matters. Getting tonked by Man City, Chelsea or Arsenal will matter not one jot as long as we stay up.
you know exactly why i'm interpreting your posts the way i did Jammy, and on this occasion it appears to have prompted some constructive analyis was discussing the evolution of football tactics at my son's u7's match yesterday - they seem to have gone full circle, and Jesse's swarm zonal press appears to have been mastered by every u7 team in our league - bit vulnerable to that long crossfield field pass when they get the timing wrong.
A few weeks ago I watched some juniors playing with a friend of mine who’s grandson was playing, was very entertaining listening to twenty odd managers on the side lines telling there respective off spring what to do, total chaos……. Just saying Milky.
The discussion referred to was a joke about how kids chasing the ball is now a zonal press. But it's unbelievable how seriously some take these games... the coach is a mate of mine and the amount of tactical advice he gets, parents of other teams wanting to transfer so they play for a better team, other teams making poaching complaints etc. This is U7s FFS. The vast majority of parents are great but there's always some 'expert' sideline coaching. But enough about me
