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Match Day Thread Leeds United vs Bournemouth

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by DamnedUnited, Jan 20, 2015.

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  2. Leeds to win by 1 Goal

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  3. Draw

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  1. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't get to match, no stream either, had to keep checking on my phone every 10 minutes then dreading it showed 1-1 eventually.

    While everyone has cause to celebrate our 1st win since errrm, oh yeah, November 29 I think, it was a very very lucky good win, not a great win. Had Bournemouth used another penalty taker then he may well have scored instead of hitting crossbar. Whether the ref got it wrong or not, we had a lot of luck in our favour for a change.

    I'm strongly beginning to believe that the FL have some refs in their pocket for some of, if not all our matches.

    While we won, Redders didn't pick a winning team, but I noticed he was quite happy to take the plaudits for a win, but not responsibility for all the losses and draws.

    Bournemouth ran over us in second half it seems, we're still lacking and being overrun in midfield, but Redders refuses to acknowledge that as it would be prejudice against his golden boy/s. Once again we see lack of service to the strikers by our midfield, and it's achieving nothing.

    Some say Cook had a good game, I didn't see the game so cannot comment however, I don't know what game some people were watching but Cooks performance stats only rose 2%, and his performance against Bournemouth was given a 2 performance rating. His passing average hasn't changed and his chances created per game is just over 1 per game. Interesting to note, Cook was given a 7 performance score against Birmingham, Murphy was given a 53 performance score against Birmingham, and a 62 against Bournemouth, meaning, in 2 games Murphys performances are very much outshining Cooks in 25 games and Murphy sits higher than Cook, like a lot of the players do.

    As someone previously said, Redders put Mowatt as a LW, which he isn't, but Redders wouldn't consider putting Adryan on LW, no, can't do that.

    My take on game going by reading comments and looking at match stats is, Bournemouth weren't playing to their full potential, granted the ball didn't drop for them so tospeak, but it will make our performance look better than it was, and considering we couldn't go for the juggler, then it would look like the case to me.

    Next 2 games will see if we have improved with Redders new selection of older players. Redders has finally managed to boot Adryan in favour of his golden boy Cook, will be interesting to see what transpires between now and end of season. Should we lose Adryan, which we shouldn't, then I blame Redders for losing us a potentially much better player than Cook.

    As for Morrison and Sharp, nuff said. Seems Redders has booted Antenucci for time being too.
     
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  2. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    To be honest Ellandback, I don't think Redders is interested in playing Montenegro or any of the other players he's managed to oust; I also suspect the dressing room is still somewhat split.
     
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  3. ristac

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    leedsLover the guy on Sky said Bouremouth deserved something from the game based on the 2nd half, no idea if this is true, for me this season has boiled down to avoiding relegation, something is wrong somewhere but we need to secure safety first and then regroup.
     
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  4. leeds60

    leeds60 Well-Known Member

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    A wins a win lets just be grateful that wehave had onesure we may have been lucky but how many times have we not had the rub of the green and even last night we coceeded a penalty that wasnt as was SatMaybe this will give them confidence
     
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  5. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Agree about the luck last night, but we played well first half. Austin should have been subbed on 50 minutes.
    It wouldn't be me if I didn't see things different to you though, take a another look at last Saturday's penalty on YouTube at the time I thought we got the ball. But he tripped their player and to be fair to the ref he got it right.

    Wtf you doing out of bed at this time? If picking the Mrs up today there is only a dusting of snow in Harrogate.
     
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  6. lifecheshirewhite

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    We deserved to beat Birmingham and draw v Bournemouth but the points are the same 4 is what we deserved and 4 we got.To say Bournemouth weren't playing to there full potential is total crap and why people insist on saying everytime we win its because the other team played bad is beyond me.We played well and with team spirit rejoyce in that.<cheers>
     
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  7. LeedsLover

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    Totally agree Ristac, safety first is priority.

    For me, and it won't be everyones opinion, which I understand, but I think Redders has become the problem.

    He has proven that Cellino doesn't pick the team or decide the formation, as a lot drearies on JA606 tried to get everyone to believe however, he seems to have this obsession with Cook and tries to make out he plays brilliantly every game and can do no wrong, but also plays him in different positions instead of picking the specialist players, yet Cook creates no impact in the team. He does the same with Byram and did with Mowatt, but Mowatt seems to have fallen out of favour lately for some unknown reason. Maybe Mowatt mentioned he'd like to go to a PL team, who knows.

    We always seem to get dominated, or mostly dominated in midfield and, it's the midfield's job to provide service to the Strikers, which they aren't doing, but Adryan does when he plays. A striker needs the ball to score goals, we see lately how Antenucci has had to drift out wide or come back to get the ball, he shouldn't have to do this, or any other striker, Duke was doing same, but Redders sees it as they're not performing rather than what's not happening.

    The defence is pretty much set, yes we've lost and drawn a lot of games, but mainly by the odd goal. My defence would be

    Berardi........Del fabro.........Cooper.......Taylor

    Bellusci..........Bianchi.

    When we played Sunderland the midfield showed the other midfield up, Sunderland could not dominate the midfield. The team played well against Sunderland, even better in second half. Sloth did a great job at RM, but then Redders changed him to LM for next game where he didn't do so well out of position, so Redders dropped him, but Cook came straight back in team for Bolton game.

    For me Redders don't know what he's doing, very inexperienced, we have another BM. I doubt Redders will be the coach next season, he just ain't good enough to take us up to PL, or keep us in PL. How long he lasts now, despite the lucky win against Bournemouth will greatly depend on the next few games results.

    Just my opinion lads, don't throw rocks....:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  8. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    LL, it was me that made the assumption that Mowatt was going to play on the wing. He didn't. He played bog standard LM, and I have no problems with that. The big surprise for us that went to the match is that we lined up 4-4-1-1, with Austin playing behind Morison. And it worked! I cannot stress how immense Austin was. Shame he got injured midway through the second half, but he still put in a shift, injured or not! I thought he was irreplaceable last night & there was no-one who could have done what he did.

    As for being over-run in midfield, I truly believe this only happened for a 15-20 minute spell in the second half. We we more dominant in midfield than they were, and we had many spells where we over-ran them. The remainder of the time it was 50/50 open play. End to end stuff. Bearing in mind we were playing the team who were top of the league, we were absolutely outstanding. A far, far better performance than the Derby game - and we were good that game!. Ten games ago, we would have got humped 8-0 and been lucky. I don't want to get too over-confident, but it looks like the tie might just be turning.

    But 4-4-1-1? Who would have predicted that?
     
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  9. LeedsLover

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    Fair enough WJ, as I mentioned I couldn't watch the match so couldn't greatly comment, hope I didn't mislead anyone, it was unintentional.

    I couldn't say anything about the midfield in Bournemouth game, but the match stats showed Bournemouth had the most possession during game, 61% which is understandable as they were eventually playing catch up and not us. Had they scored their penalty then conversations would probably be completely different, or near to it.

    For most of the Redders games we've been beaten in midfield, centre, left or right build up.

    4-4-1-1 could be the reason why we didn't, or couldn't go for the juggler. That's been one of our problems since Redders took over, we either play a lot of catch up, lose or cannot go for the juggler, with exception to the first Derby game and everyone played well.

    Take the Blackpool game, brilliant performance, the passing was good. Coopers goal saw a good build up with good passing and Cooper finished it off. Dukes goal, I think it was Byram from in our box to Antenucci to Adryan who ran over half the length of the pitch, passed it to Duke and bang, a goal. Antenucci's goal, good build up with good passing and he was there to slot it in. That team were playing spirited, enthused, motivated and confident, Redders took over full time and he started tinkering with team, it all disappeared. He was still playing the diamond though, so theoretically speaking, was the diamond the actual problem.

    Could we say Darko was part of problem, yes, so why didn't Redders convert back to what we were doing during his temp role instead of blaming Hockaday and Darko. Redders seems to blame everything else but doesn't take responsibility for his failures.

    Where has that spirit and motivation gone.
     
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  10. BoggersMOT

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    A fine performance last night. Once again, 451 or similart working, whereas the diamond clearly didn't. Great to see crowd getting behind Morrison. Given the grief he has previously got on here, good to see it all working out in the end.
     
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  11. BoggersMOT

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    A fine performance last night. Once again, 451 or similart working, whereas the diamond clearly didn't. Great to see crowd getting behind Morrison. Given the grief he has previously got on here, good to see it all working out in the end.
     
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  12. Whitejock

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    Boggers, I was pretty sure it was 4-4-1-1 last night, with Austin being superb just off Morison.
     
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  13. BoggersMOT

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    Could be right Jock, although LUTV were suggesting a 5 man midfield. Either way, it wasn't the diamond and it did work
     
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