Leazes Terrace

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Somebodys pinched my sombrero

Somebodys pinched my sombrero

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The former mackem heartland of Peterlee
Somebodys pinched my sombrero said:
Wasn’t aware of this, but apparently PIF bought Leazes Terrace well before the takeover. I know they are listed buildings, but are they totally protected?
Surely the wouldn’t have bought them unless they knew there was some way around the rules?
Could lead to massive redevelopment and a big increase in capacity?
https://www.union-property.co.uk/un...ll-private-apartments-to-middle-eastern-fund/
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They never. It's got **** all to do with PIF. It was a separate Saudi property consortium.
 
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Somebodys pinched my sombrero said:
I could have sworn it mentioned PIF in the link, but it doesn’t.
They’ll probably be good mates though <ok>
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Oh, I'm not saying they wouldn't have their methods of obtaining it if they wished but a Grade 1 listed building is having **** all done to it other than being dismantled and rebuilt brick by brick.
 
Everyone should give up on their pursuit of Leazes Terrace. It's Grade I listed and sits in a Conservation Area - and I believe it's the only residential building in Newcastle with such eminent national status. The group value of the Leazes/St.Thomas's neighbourhood, with Leazes Terrace as its crowning glory, is of immense value to this city.
 
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magdad said:
Oh, I'm not saying they wouldn't have their methods of obtaining it if they wished but a Grade 1 listed building is having **** all done to it other than being dismantled and rebuilt brick by brick.
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If only we had a consortium wealthy enough to do that!
 
AgentofAlnwick said:
Everyone should give up on their pursuit of Leazes Terrace. It's Grade I listed and sits in a Conservation Area - and I believe it's the only residential building in Newcastle with such eminent national status. The group value of the Leazes/St.Thomas's neighbourhood, with Leazes Terrace as its crowning glory, is of immense value to this city.
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Yep, no way round Grade 1 listings, Ashley selling off Strawberry Place was the big **** you to the future expansion of the ground as that was the only viable option to increase capacity.
 
When big money and long term nvestment into the area come into play I think grade1 buildings will become pawns.

We'll see
 
Billions and Billions said:
When big money and long term nvestment into the area come into play I think grade1 buildings will become pawns.

We'll see
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I think the whole point of designating them was to stop that. Its a bloody football ground - it should either stay where it is and look at how it could expand or move elsewhere.

I hope its the former. I don’t actually think we need extra capacity. Its great to see it full - we should just improve the facilities inside.
 
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JakartaToon said:
I think the whole point of designating them was to stop that. Its a bloody football ground - it should either stay where it is and look at how it could expand or move elsewhere.

I hope its the former. I don’t actually think we need extra capacity. Its great to see it full - we should just improve the facilities inside.
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We do need more seats mate and it'll be about 8k.

It's just some old rocks.

I'm sure they'll tart it up well
 
Billions and Billions said:
We do need more seats mate and it'll be about 8k.

It's just some old rocks.

I'm sure they'll tart it up well
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I’m no expert but I have had a client want to make some amendments to a listed building and it was an absolute nightmare.

Heritage England got involved and more or less refused everything he wanted to do even though the building itself was in fact dangerous.

It was farm building aswell so an actual working farm.

I don’t think there is anything they can do about leases terrace whatsoever.
 
Geordieginola said:
I’m no expert but I have had a client want to make some amendments to a listed building and it was an absolute nightmare.

Heritage England got involved and more or less refused everything he wanted to do even though the building itself was in fact dangerous.

It was farm building aswell so an actual working farm.

I don’t think there is anything they can do about leases terrace whatsoever.
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Maybe you were using the wrong “contractors”, if you know what I mean…

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Andra Tutto Bene said:
Maybe you were using the wrong “contractors”, if you know what I mean…

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Ha ha. They where demanding extremely unreasonable changes. Like using the exact same materials for things when they are just not available and stuff like that.

Specialist pen pushers who just said no.

He also had an outhouse with bats in which meant that also became a protected building and he couldn’t change the use of the building. The Bats had rights believe it or not.

Bonkers!
 
Somebodys pinched my sombrero said:
Wasn’t aware of this, but apparently PIF bought Leazes Terrace well before the takeover. I know they are listed buildings, but are they totally protected?
Surely the wouldn’t have bought them unless they knew there was some way around the rules?
Could lead to massive redevelopment and a big increase in capacity?
https://www.union-property.co.uk/un...ll-private-apartments-to-middle-eastern-fund/
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That's exactly what I was telling me dad we should do. I was saying we should extend, he said we cannot due to the buildings being listed...

But surely enough money would resolve the **** issue? The owners could literally buy the entire street surrounding st james, as they should.

Surely local authorities should see the development of newcastle united and everything associated as a much greater benefit to the local economy than a bunch of listed buildings?
 
666 Tash 666 said:
That's exactly what I was telling me dad we should do. I was saying we should extend, he said we cannot due to the buildings being listed...

But surely enough money would resolve the **** issue? The owners could literally buy the entire street surrounding st james, as they should.

Surely local authorities should see the development of newcastle united and everything associated as a much greater benefit to the local economy than a bunch of listed buildings?
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The local authority would. It’s the Heritage that don’t care about local issues. The building itself and its history is what they want to protect.

And that’s never ever going to be overcome with any amount of money especially if it’s to knock it down for a football stadium.
 
Geordieginola said:
The local authority would. It’s the Heritage that don’t care about local issues. The building itself and its history is what they want to protect.

And that’s never ever going to be overcome with any amount of money especially if it’s to knock it down for a football stadium.
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Can someone advise me what building is it exactly and it's history?

Also is the fact that it's history is documented not enough? All buildings crumble eventually, or they're reinforced and tarted up to such a degree that it's no longer a historical building anyway, just wreckage with lipstick on it.

If there's a good, modern, financial reason to remove historical buildings then it should be considered. Think of how the local area would benefit?

It's history getting in the way of progression surely?
 
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