Well this is a more important element to reconstruction. Send out the Psycho-signal. We had a chat about this sorta thing recently and now it is coming to fruition. I am not convinced this is an altruistic gesture. I think if we got pushed we'd have to bend anyway. Celtic on Wednesday announced a new, three-year, multi-million pound shirt sponsorship deal with Magners cider and then revealed that the revenue from that agreement will not compensate the Scottish champions for the money they have given up in order to subsidise reconstruction of the national leagues. please log in to view this image New deal: Peter Lawwell, Celtic chief executive and Tom McCusker, managing director of Magners, in the changing room at Celtic Park Photo: CELTIC FC By Ewing Grahame 6:59PM GMT 09 Jan 2013 please log in to view this image 2 Comments From its inception in 1998/99, the distribution of wealth in the Scottish Premier League was always skewed in favour of the clubs finishing first and second which was – with the exception of Hearts being runners-up in 2006 – always Celtic or Rangers. Consequently, the concession by the country’s leading clubs of a seven-figure sum to facilitate a more equitable spread of income among the lesser lights will hit Celtic harder than the others. The club’s chief executive, Peter Lawwell, admitted that Celtic would, initially at least, lose out as a result but he insisted that the proposed new system could not even have been proposed to the 41 clubs later this month without their magnanimous gesture. “In proportion the two top clubs, from where we were, are giving up a considerable amount,” he said. That’s not taking away from what the other six are also giving up. In order to get it done there is a change to the distribution. Some would deem that fairer. “I would probably not call it fairer because those who generate the value should get the most but I think it’s a recognition – certainly from Celtic – that in order to get out of this gridlock we need to in some way compromise in the central revenue to get things moving along.” Asked whether he considered that a big sacrifice, Lawwell replied: “It is, yes. [The Magners sponsorship] certainly doesn’t cover it, put it that way.” Lawwell also hopes that, by attempting to strengthen the financial position of smaller cleubs, the accusations which have long been levelled at the SPL – that it was a cartel of short-sighted, selfish, members who cared only for their own well-being – will now cease. “The difficulty in the past was achieving unanimity,” he said. “It’s different industries: in the past you had Celtic and Rangers as a different business from the other professional clubs, the city clubs if you like. “Different agendas, different objectives. To get all of them aligned has been very difficult. That’s why that breakthrough was so important. “To be fair, it is one of the very infrequent times when the greater good of the game has been taken into account.” Lawwell also dismissed suggestions that the new structure – two leagues of 12 clubs splitting into three divisions of eight – is too convoluted, arguing that fans will come round to it sooner rather than later. “It’s not that complicated but, for me, I think everybody needs to get behind it, in terms of all the stakeholders: media, clubs, governing bodies, because don’t underestimate the breakthrough [we’ve made] in terms of getting unanimity within the SPL. “That’s difficult to get, and once you’ve got that you have to use that to get to a solution. “Not to do so would be a very big lost opportunity because if you had to go back and start again God knows where you would end up or how long it would take. “It is not perfect, we have huge challenges, but it’s probably the best available. Where do you create value in the game? The Sky deal is done, we’re looking for a main sponsor. “Where are the other revenue streams? Well, the main one is the gates and if you have more meaningful games then you have more people turning up and that means more cash at the gate, more sponsorship interest and more TV interest. “It’s just about trying to get more meaningful games in there and getting more supporters wanting to come out because the games they are watching matter.” Even allowing for the fact that Celtic have sacrificed a significant sum of money with which to oil the wheels of change, Lawwell is confident that they are nor making a rod for their own backs. He believes that the Hoops will continue to be the dominant force in the new-look top division for the foreseeable future in spite of their efforts to strengthen rival clubs. “If you are a Hearts or Aberdeen season-ticket holder you go out in July to buy your season-ticket and, frankly, history tells you – without being arrogant about it – that only two teams win the league. “Where is your motivation? But when they go to play a relegation battle it’s a full house. “Will the new structure change that? It won’t. That might sound arrogant. But it is very difficult to see how these proposals will change that, but that’s a fundamental. “You need a more radical solution in order to change that ... but we are where we are.”
So we are in favour for it, why? This is not what the fans wanted. “It is not perfect, we have huge challenges, but it’s probably the best available. Where do you create value in the game? The Sky deal is done, we’re looking for a main sponsor. “Where are the other revenue streams? Well, the main one is the gates and if you have more meaningful games then you have more people turning up and that means more cash at the gate, more sponsorship interest and more TV interest. “It’s just about trying to get more meaningful games in there and getting more supporters wanting to come out because the games they are watching matter.” Or you could lower prices. It should not be cheaper to go to a premiership game that it is to attend a spl match.
I reckon we knew we had to give it up or it would be taken away. Resistance and losing would look like a defeat...as it would be. Place ourselves front and centre for the agenda for change then we get favourably treated further down the line? There were a few sides with designs on dominating the challenge and now it looks like that isn't going to be the preserve of one club, so they are looking to improve the lot of everyone. A calculated risk...or calculated playing it safe Economically we might gain from a guarantee of more home games than we get now? I am just guessing of course but there has to be some reason the board are volunteering this move. A wise man once told me that he didn't believe anything could be truly altruistic. I think i there is something in that.
Bill Leckie article is brillant today in the sun , having a go at Chuckles . Is it also war time between Traynor and Leckie, there is no way Leckie would have written that a month ago .
I pointed this out earlier but forgot the alternative solution put forward by the SFL (to which Rangers agreed) was 16-10-16. Under that system, the 3rd division teams would be in the exact same boat - ie a worthless season and playing the same teams over again next season.
Surprise surprise , George the Hun Peat is not happy with the new set up . These idiots interest isn't Scottish football it's what's best for The Rangers
I wonder did George the Hun get advised fully advised on the effects of league reconstruction By his old friend and mentor Walter non dignity Smith.
Spiers on Sport: Charles Green, a bull in a china shop Spiers on Sport Graham Spiers There are two competing schools of thought about the faintly Barnum figure that is Charles Green, the Rangers chief executive. inShare The first is that he is an engaging, gutsy man, who has astutely taken on this Rangers mess and stored up for himself future profit, while simultaneously restoring the club. The second is that he is a colourful buffoon, a blusterer adept in the outrageous statement, who has taken in the Ibrox hardcore with his megaphone pronouncements. I think there is merit in both points of view. Green is a hard man to place. He has done a lot that is admirable at Rangers, even while his tongue occasionally wags to lunatic effect. Give me more of this, I say. It's like having a circus right on your doorstep that you can dip in and out of any time you like. Whenever I think of Green I think of him in one of those huge, stripy top-hats. Yet Green's most recent outburst may sway any swithering neutral about him towards the second of these perspectives - that is, of the buffoon in action. Tub-thumping as only he can, Green has harangued the Scottish football authorities over their proposed 12-12-18 reconstruction of the leagues. The Ibrox CEO also stated, in quite a porridge of indignant sentiment, that Rangers should leave Scottish football as quickly as possible. Amid his frothing Green came upon one slight glitch…he didn't know where his club should go. Just to be sure, I quote him: "If that [12-12-18] is what we have [then] the quicker we can leave Scottish football the better." And then: "On first glance there is nowhere for us to go…but that doesn't mean we shouldn't start looking for an option." Curiously, Green was greatly agitated on Wednesday about the fact that, in any new 12-12-18 set-up, Rangers, should they win the Irn-Bru third division title, would not be "promoted" as such but end up playing the same teams again next season. Yet if Rangers were to be promoted in an unchanged system, they would go up to the third tier in Scottish football - just as, in a new 12-12-18 structure, they would resume in the third tier. Indeed, a title-winning Rangers, working their way up from the third division under the current system, would take three years from August 2012 to get back to the top - a time-frame that doesn't change in a 12-12-18 system. Even more strange, Green in his statement appears to favour "a bigger league" than the current SPL of 12. Yet in the SFL's counter-proposal to go to a 16-10-16, a title-winning Rangers this season would also have to stay in the bottom tier next year, playing the same teams again…but didn't Charlie just rage about this? Indeed, asked about the 16-10-16 scenario only a month ago, Ally McCoist, the Rangers manager, said he welcomed the plan. This is all very confusing. Mr Green's anger flies around like shrapnel, some of it hitting the mark, other bits smashing the tea-pot in the corner. On such occasions, he exhibits quite a lather. In truth, what we are witnessing here is the pain of an aggrieved Rangers, a wounded animal. This club is letting off steam at every conceivable opportunity. Green has made it his place to rage against the SPL and the SFA, and he never wants to miss a chance. Rangers are sore. They feel persecuted. The club and some of its supporters see various conspirators and "agendas" which are there to trip them up. You do meet other Rangers fans who accept the club's wrongdoing, who are stoical about their fate, and who remain a tad sceptical about Charles Green. But they are a silent majority (or minority). I don't mind Charles Green's bombast. Indeed, he is a dream for the Scottish media. He provides endless drama and headlines. But there is a chance that his endless indignation will become boring. Just occasionally, he might like to pipe down a bit. looks like the rangers fans have made a right **** of themselves. lol
"The second is that he is a colourful buffoon, a blusterer adept in the outrageous statement, who has taken in the Ibrox hardcore with his megaphone pronouncements." Could there be a clue in this sentence?
The reason for Mr green anger is that rangers are ****ed no matter what happens. Due to the meagre take up by fans of his recent share issue he is beaten no matter What happens. If he has to stay in the bottom division another season the money will run out, as the price of season tickets will have to be kept low. If promoted money will run out as players will demand more money for playing in higher league. It appears his Only option, is his preferred option of playing in the Holland Belgium woman' league. That also presents some difficulty, can you imagine the current players in that league playing on the same pitch as elbows McCullagh
Clyde phone in is magic just now. BFDJ getting emotional when discussing SEVCO and reconstruction. Maybe he realises or has been told that Greens business plan was based on SPL footy next season. Expect another fan based share issue failure soon. SEVCO fan on absolutely raging and ranting. Clearly driven barking mad by the reconstruction, so he says Green is contacting Ajax and Ferencvaros to play in a league with SEVCO. Another wants to move to the Conference but Keevins reminds him that they wouldn't get out of that quickly. SEVCO are raging...........absolutely magic
Agreed. Nothing has changed. They were celebrating possibility of winning the SFL 3 in record time. Now they complain that the games this season are meaningless if reconstruction goes ahead next season, however when they win the league in Feb or so this season the games are meaningless anyway. They thought they were getting fast tracked. Would love them to go to the Conference and be trapped like an oversize goldfish in an undersized bowl. Greens business plan depended, as you imply, on SPL next season with European football of some kind the season after. THE GEMS A BOGEY.
They thought they were getting fast tracked. I suspect they were given a nod and a wink and CHUCKY'S based his business plan on that. He is a venture capitalist...........or a punter at the bookies playing with someone else's money......or one of these desperate gamblaholics who pishes themselves rather than move away from the puggy.
The players Rangers bought were promised top league football within 18 months , I think it's hitting home it's all going t!ts up. , paying Alexander 11 grand a week no wonder .
because Charlie has made a right **** of himself. So all the rangers fans who back him blindly and are raging about reconstruction are making ****s of themselves.
Alexander's agent is doing a great job for him. He realises that SEVCO cannot do without him as they only have very young inexperienced replacements, so he is milking SEVCO for every penny and he will of course be able to threaten to go public on SEVCO promises if they do not stump up and of course, some of the big earners who did not Tupe over are coming back in the summer. Greens business plan is rapidly being washed down a stank and to compound it all the additional payments to SPL clubs from UEFA for Celtics achievements is greater than the sky deal AND SKY DEAL DESPITE THE MSM LIES HAS TWO MORE SEASONS TO RUN.
I meant the Sevco fans. What is their problem? Surely it makes no odds to them? EDIT; There is a point there for them about timing. I thought the rules were that changes would be applied with a seasons notice. Although Sevco should be the last clun to moan about how the SFA conducts itself
I think the point is (and I can partly sympathise) is that they will "in effect" still be in the bottom tier of Scottish Football despite winning their league. Their main complaint seems to be that they are seeing the goalposts getting moved in the middle of a season. I suppose I would be kinda pissed off too, as at present (Whether rightly or wrongly) they feel that they are getting kicked while they are down...again. I don't care either way personally, as it has no materiel affect on Celtic, but I would like to see a shake up, something has to get changed but I can see where Gers fans are coming from.
