Most of the top clubs have a hardcore bunch calling themselves Ultras, they're fascists basically, with Mussollini mindset...poor! As an away fan at these venues, you cannot even take a walk around the stadium, you will be steered by Police to one entrance only, to keep clear of this element of Italian fans.
I wouldn't worry about that, everyone knows the Italian fans are scum. Happens every match, can't believe they still allowed in European competitions.
Mussolini mindset? But that lot were rubbish at fighting! But seriously, what a total disgrace. Not the first time by any means. How many times does this need to happen before the authorities act? It seems to me the only way action would be taken would be if a group of Italian fans were attacked in the same manner in London... can you imagine what UEFA would do to us then! What do you mean monkey chants at the game tonight... didn't you know they were fined last time, 50p or something, that will certainly stop them.
Lazio's Ultras have a reputation of having a particular link to fascist groups, not sure it's entirely fair to tar all Ultras groups with the fascist brush but it's certainly a problem associated with Lazio's Ultras in particular. Here's to all the fans recovering ASAP and us turning them over on the pitch tonight in response.
I've been saying it time and time again, this is what happens in italy all of the time and used to be the norm in Germany and Holland. Yet English clubs got banned. Italians stab yet another foreign supporter, yeah it was not in the stadium, does it make a fookin difference, I genuinely hope the guy is OK, thoughts are with him and his family, terrible fkn thing to happen it really is, what the fk were the italian police doing? Yet again? Kind of hard to miss 40 guys in helmets, and this is to be expected too so why aren't the police on this.
If the police were serious about sorting out the ultras they could. They could target them, infiltrate them, better patrol the areas they operate in, focus intelligence on it, put CCTV up in those areas, get the names of everyone involved from those that were arrested, try and be a bit more proactive, hand out severe example sentences etc etc... Does someone have to die before they do anything???? Edit: perhaps one of those attacked might want to take out a civil case against the police, arguing that they had every right to expect protection / they failed in their duty of care etc. That's when the police would argue that they attack could not have been anticipated or prevented and we'll see how hollow that sounds in court.
Napoli and Lazio both have dangerous fans, and as notso said the facist ideology don't help! Two of our fans were stabbed in Turin the other night apparently. I went to a Milan v Roma game once at San Siro and there was violence between the pair in a mcdonalds afterward. We get far too much bad press for hooliganism imo, yes they fought but usually only like minded people and most of the time weren't cowardly enough to use weapons! Ultra ****ers.
The problem is that the Italian police are hardly the most helpful force: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7089485.stm Sadly, the initial plan by the Italian government (in the sake of Filippo Raciti being killed in clashes with Catania fans) sounded familiar: ID cards, although that got kicked into touch pretty damn quickly.
Never happen but the easiest punishment for this would be to ban home matches in the comp for the offending team. The clubs would do more if they thought they had to play 6 away games and the City authorities would be proactive if they thought they were losing the matchday revenue. You're punishing the club for having this thug minority but giving them the chance to continue their business and not destroying the competition. The real fans then have a choice: do a lot of traveling or support the club & police in removing the arses from their midst.
When you have players at the club indulging in this sort of behaviour and their Prime Minister basically laughing it off, it's hardly surprising, is it? please log in to view this image Add to that the persistent intimidation and violence from Turkish clubs and it seems that FIFA/UEFA don't give a crap.
I wish you'd stop posting that picture. He's a WUM. His actions are to be laughed at. Plus, the man's a hero in these parts and all that old stuff has been forgotten. Not sure I can agree with generalising all Lazio fans. We've all been punished in the past for the bad things a few fans have done in our favourite club's name. It's not nice. It's not fair. Are the thugs fans of football or are they just thugs? It's a police matter and it's no fault of the good fans that their police force is ****e. We don't know how angelic are own fans we being either. Drinking that much, that late, in a foreign country is looking for trouble. Look for trouble and it'll find you.
A racist that somehow slipped through TSOBL net because his club apologised. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18278054
This was a cowardly act by committed thugs, who no doubt planned the attack, and who went in mob-handed and tooled-up to the teeth. I hope Spurs complain bitterly to UEFA and that a suitably harsh punishment is handed down. If Lazio cannot control their own fans, who can?
He's a fascist scumbag with a tattoo dedicated to Mussolini, a man who he described as "basically a very principled, ethical individual" who was "deeply misunderstood" in his autobiography. Yes we do. The owner of the bar, Mario Manzi, told the BBC: "At 1am there were around 30 English fans here, plus some American students, and some Italians. "At some point, from around the corner, some 40 guys, all wearing helmets, faces covered with scarves, came here, destroyed that window, and came in. "The English people hid behind here, and everything was destroyed. There were rocks, iron bars, everything." He said: "The English fans were very calm, they weren't even drunk, then these men with heads covered came barging in throwing cobblestones. They had clubs and metal rods. It lasted about 20 minutes." Mr Manzi added: "This was a planned thing. They had studied it. The English people had been here since the afternoon. They were circled, cornered, and weren't allowed to go out." Sorry Inda, but I think you're miles off with this one. The Italian clubs as a whole have done nothing to discourage the whole Ultra culture, treating them as if they're superior to normal fans, in a lot of cases. All Italian fans aren't like this and I'm sure it turns a lot of them away from attending matches, which would explain the gates in Serie A. Something needs to be done about it.
If I was a bar owner in Italy, there's no way I'd tell anyone that I'd tanked up English fans until the early hours. I'd say something like: "The English fans were very calm, they weren't even drunk" I mean, c'mon, as an English man, I know full well what happens when English football supporting men start drinking in the afternoon. Di Canio. While I don't agree with his political views, I respect his right to say them. It is the pinnacle of free speech.
Actually, isn't the bar owner putting his business and himself at risk by defending the Spurs supporters? I see no reason for him to lie or gloss over what happened.
