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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Samurai, May 19, 2012.

  1. Mantis

    Mantis Well-Known Member

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    Sold him on the idea that Spurs can challenge for honours with a team that is inferior to what they had last season. Just puttin it out there. <ok>
    Wenger has actually won the PL. Something Spurs will never do.
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

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    In what way?
     
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  3. The Magic Man

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    Without wishing to pick a fight, but:

    1) Your top forward from last season is no longer currently with you.
    2) Your top (?) play-making midfielder is looking to move and it is likely that it will happen.

    At the moment you have not replaced either and even if you do, they may take time to settle in.

    As a side note, the only reason that your World class £50M rated left midfielder isn't requesting a transfer is because no-one actually believes in his hype and don't want him.

    Plus with the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, both Mancs and Arsenal all strengthening, it will be a lot tougher for any of us to get top 4 or challenge next season.
     
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    You can't have it both ways with Modric and Adebayor.
    One is no longer at the club, though it looks highly likely he'll return and the other is yet to leave, though it looks equally likely that he will.
    As you say, Modric will be replaced, but it's down to how suitable that replacement is and how quickly he adapts.
    You've ignored the signings of Vertonghen and Sigurdsson though, for some reason.
     
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  5. Spursguru

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    our defense is stronger than last year.

    Modric will be replaced.

    Ade should be signing for us, but we will still be on the look out for more talent.

    Are so confident that VP's goals will be replaced by a striker with one good year under his belt in the french league, and another who has never been prolific?
     
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  6. The Magic Man

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    We'll see if you can afford Ade's wages first and I believe that not many people think Modric will be staying.

    Let's see how Vertonghen adapts, but not a bad replacement for an ageing gallas or crocked King. Sigurdsson, in my opinion, is not in the same bracket as Modric / Ade. Squad player at best?

    Plus as opposed to an experienced PL manager who had improved Spurs, you have a new manager who may be great or may be similar to the man who dragged Chelsea from a title challenging team to a team that finished 6th after improving when the manager got sacked. It'll be interesting to see how he does though and i do think he'll do better at Spurs than Chelsea.
     
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  7. Spursguru

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    When he was sacked the were only a few points off 4th. How did they improve exactly?
     
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  8. The Magic Man

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    I didn't mention Arsenal, but can you show me where it is clear that VP will be leaving this summer?

    As for Podolski, 44 goals in 101 caps for germany at the age of 27, when normally played from the left ain't too shoddy really.
     
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  9. The Magic Man

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    I stand corrected, although they did win the champions league, but that obviously was not what I was alluding to.
     
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  10. Spursguru

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    Davor Suker had a good international record too... <whistle>
     
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  11. Sanj

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    He was past 30 when he joined us.
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    You're appealing to popular opinion about Modric leaving, but not about Adebayor joining or van Persie leaving you.
    Inconsistent.

    You're also pointing to Arsenal signing two players with no Premier League experience as a plus, but casting doubts over whether Vertonghen will adapt to the style of the league.
    Also inconsistent.
     
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  13. Boss

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    Bye Bale <laugh> Signed new contract.


    Bye Modric <laugh> Possible, yet if he leaves replacementt will be purchased.


    Bye Adebayor <laugh> Fee agreed, wants to resign.

    Incorrect, little man :cheesy:

    You may like to tell him to stop saying in interviews that he wants to stay.
     
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  14. The Magic Man

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    OK - I'll admit that it looks inconsistent. Just to clarify:

    I did say that we'll see how Vertonghen adapts, but also stated 'but not a bad replacement for an ageing gallas...'
    We will also have to see how Podolski and Giroud adapt (same with all players really), but certainly with Podolski, I believe that with his experience he should be OK.

    VP - All the signs at the moment are that Arsenal will make him see out his contract unless we get a ridiculously high offer for a 29 year old with 1 year left on his contract who has a less than impeccable injury record.

    Modric - Even AVB has been quoted about him leaving. Do you think he will stay?
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7889148/Modric-exit-talks-ongoing

    Ade - I believe that you will have the option to sign him, but who knows whether he will drop his massive salary significantly (possible) or whether Tottenham will break their wage stucture (unlikely).
     
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  15. PleaseNotPoll

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    I think that Modric will leave, but I also think that van Persie will, too.
    The deal might actually get kickstarted by Adebayor leaving City, ironically enough.
    He's only got one year left on his deal with them, so a large signing on fee should cover the difference in wages for that period.

    Podolski might well succeed at Arsenal, but his club success has only been with one side, so far.
    When he left Cologne to join Bayern, he flopped quite badly.
    His return brought mixed results, with two poor individual seasons followed by an extremely poor one for his club, which saw them relegated.
    He scored quite a lot of goals as they went down, but then so did Yakubu at Blackburn.
    They had very, very similar records last year, in fact.
     
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  16. Arsenal Said Knock You Out!

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    Do you use this philosophy with AVB as he was a huge flop last season yet you lot are worshipping him for some bizarre reason, blinkered by his non EPL success.
     
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  17. Spursguru

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    Our new wage cap is 100k

    Throw in the 5m signing on fee and you've got yourself the deal he is after.
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    He also succeeded at Académica, so it's not one club, but Villas-Boas is largely unproven, yes.
    He had one exceptional year with Porto, picking up three trophies, but didn't do the business with Chelsea.
    He's yet to manage for three full seasons, so he's got a long way to go.

    Huge flop is a massive overstatement, though.
    When he was sacked as Chelsea manager, in a season which he was told to totally change the style of football that the club played and usher out the old guard, they were 3 points behind Arsenal.
     
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  19. Arsenal Said Knock You Out!

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    No. It's fact. I even recall spuds laughing at him during Chelsea's brief meltdown.

    Podolski has not flopped in the EPL, AVB has.
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

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    In which case Wenger massively flopped too, as he only managed to accumulate 3 more points than said flop over the same number of games.

    Podolski hasn't played in the Premier League, which would do a very good job of preventing him from flopping. Or succeeding. Or doing anything at all. <doh>
    That's why I pointed out that TMM's claim that Vertonghen was unproven applied equally to Podolski.
     
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