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Lambert for England

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by The Ides of March, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    So you think players should be played based on their form 8 flippin' years ago?

    Not for England he's not.
     
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  2. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    I know, it's getting way too repetitive now with the Holt/Lambert comparisions.

    Some pundits really need to do their research, I'm talking about you Lawrenson, he is an awful pundit.
     
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  3. Joe!

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    Yes. He's the same person.

    Probably something to do with the squad being worse.
     
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  4. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    What games have you been watching mate?Rooney has been shocking for England at international tournaments (expect euro 2004) he was awesome back then. Since 2004 he has been very, very poor for England.

    He has had his go, he didn't do enough. He should never play for England again.
     
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  5. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    It's the biggest honour for any player to play for their country. Don't be silly man.

    He'd love to play in the next world cup for England, it would be a dream come true for him.

    I sense that someone is a bit of a glory hunter and maybe a bit of a turncoat, am I right?xx
     
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  6. Itchen North Matt

    Itchen North Matt Active Member

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    How about:

    -------------------Hart
    Walker-----Cahill-----Caulker-----Baines
    ----Ward-Prowse-----Cleverly
    ------------------Powell
    Johnson---------------------------Lallana
    -----------------Rooney

    Rooney is a fantastic player when he's fully fit.
     
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  7. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    Maybe. He has been very poor for England at international tournaments (except euro 2004).

    I think he needs to make way for Lambert.
     
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  8. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    *Rooney-He doesn't play well enough for England
     
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  9. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    Not for England though.
     
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  10. Joe!

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    You seem to be confusing form with ability.
     
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  11. benditlikeabanana

    benditlikeabanana Well-Known Member

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    England with 442 does not suit Rooney, if we had played 433 for the last 10 years then we would have seen the best from him and from Gerrard and Lampard
     
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  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    No. You know nobody here is confusing those terms. Ability improves, and is almost permanent over the course of a career, unless a severe injury cramps a player's style. Form can go up and down like a bloody yo-yo. Rooney's confidence, when playing for England is palpably low, and his form is not what it was.
     
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  13. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    Both disappear when he plays for England. Shame.
     
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  14. Mr.Gaston Ramirez

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    4-4-2 or 4-3-3 doesn't make any difference to Rooney's form. He played in a 4-42 formation in euro 2004.
     
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  15. Joe!

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    It's hard to understand what you're saying here. What is it if it's not form?
     
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  16. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I'm not going to explain myself further, Joe. I've been completely clear to anyone who understands the distinction between ability and form. You obviously do, and I think you're just deciding not to, in this particular topic.
     
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  17. Joe!

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    Well that's not true. You've rightly said that a player's ability can't decline bar some sort of major injury, so if he's worse now than he was in Euro 2004 like some people on here are claiming, and it's not due a decline in ability, then what can it be other than form?

    Or of course it can be that I'm right and he hasn't got worse at all.
     
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  18. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I said it was a decline in form..!
     
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  19. Joe!

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    So did I. Why are you taking issue with what I'm saying then?
     
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  20. TheSecondStain

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    I'm not..!
     
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