What about the terrorist attacks in beirut. Do we play there anthem as well. Some deaths seem to matter ...others dont. To me they all matter and are all horrible
There are some of us on here who still remember how they caved in to the Nazis in the 1940s and set up a collaborationist government in France which handed our escaping lads over to the SS. Three members of my family died in Europe and North Africa in part because of those pusillanimous cheese-eating surrender monkies failures to resist Hitlers thugs. I am very sorry for all those who died in Paris at the hands of the new Nazis, and applaud the French governments strong response. But the Premier Leagues decision is completely over the top.
I don't think we can blame the current citizens of France for what happened in the 1940's, anymore than we can blame the Nazis on the current citizens of Germany. This initiative may be over top the top, but it's got naff all to do with WW2.
Unfortunately you appear to have totally missed the point. I am not blaming the current citizens of France for what happened in the 1940's. I have great sympathy for the people of Paris. But there are many of my generation who have strong feelings about the behaviour of the French in the 1940's, and the impact of their governments cowardice on our armed forces, and specifically our family members. This initiative is not only over the top...it is downright insulting.!!! How many times was the Star Spangled Banner played at major French public events after 9/11...or God Save the Queen after the London bombings. NONE!!
I was thinking myself that a national anthem is really a political statement (I've never been a fan of national anthems at anything). And I assume the whole idea of this is that it isn't just about France. Indeed the bombers weren't, I assume, purely looking at it as an attack on the state of France either. Like the attack on the World Trade Centre which is sometimes looked at as purely an attack on America but actually killed many non-American people as well.
I can't really remember what happened after 7/7 in terms of public displays of sympathy. It would have been the cricket season of course so football had no chance to participate. The Ashes were being played but I don't recall any big show of solidarity or the like.
It was absolutely an attack on America, regardless of the nationalities of those who lost their lives. This is in danger of getting political, let's not go there.
I said 'purely'. But with any popular entertainment anyway most people use it to escape the real world and have some fun rather than be reminded of what's on the news. Even if you don't like that I think it's the reality.
To be fair, we could have done with God Save the Queen being played at some events here after 7/7, might have stopped certain other public displays happening if there'd been that attention given to it.
I think the attack being targeted at everyone is right, it was terrorism and it chose France as it's battleground of convenience and then made a statement to excuse it. If we believe what we are told (and why not) there have been numerous attacks foiled in other countries; ours included. It seems to be IS against the rest of the world, against any social order other than their own and the name and location of the country makes no difference, the ease of doing it there does, which is determined by a number of operational factors, rather than political ones.
Very good point made by the Syria coach. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...end-mood-feels-different-Wembley-gesture.html
The multinational make up of the PL and its global audience, does make this mark of respect acceptable. Beyond that as far as football in the UK is concerned. I do not feel that there is a need to have any further form of remembrance, unless some one at the club is directly affected. I think we have to guard against the Diana effect. That said, if supporters at other games spontaneously started to sing it, without it being organized by anyone, fair enough. I also share the view that it is strange that events in Paris are seen as more tragic than the downing of a Russian plane. We show solidarity with one country, yet ignore other countries who are in the same fight. It's a strange media world we live in that's for sure.
That's alright. Everyone makes a typo, easy to press the adjacent key to the one you intended. More embarrassing for a potential journalist to misspell a word or even use the wrong one..
What people don't like to admit is that we have become desensitized to violence, war and bombing 'over there' in the Middle East. Terror is just a part of life 'over there' and isn't that newsworthy - according to the media. When it happens in the West - it's the biggest attack the world has ever scene and action needs to be taken. It's sad but the stark reality is people like to forget about all the **** in the world and they can as long as it's far away.
There are tragedies, some caused by nature, some caused by evil people, all around the world on a daily basis. Where is the line to be drawn on these shows of public grief and support? Quite appropriate to mark the occasion at Wembley as the game involved the country involved and was also an acknowledgement of them fulfilling the fixture but this PL thing is just a gesture.
I think it's fine when it's ceremonial - for example after the Madrid bombings the royal guards played the Spanish anthem after the changing of the guard and the Spanish did the same following 7/7. Even on Tuesday it kind of felt right because of the opposition but this is way over the top. You have to ask if this is for the benefit of the people of France or for the image of the premier League.
