I am well aware that we are not a top club, we never qualify for Europe and haven't played at the top for a long time. Our right back Jonathan Tiffoney is in the Scotland u-21s by the way. I don't measure success in whether we lose to you or not, the point I was making (which you cant deny), is that considering how crap we are and have been for years, you still can't win at our ground, whether we field full-time players or part time builders and mechanics. That is embarassing.