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Krueger's Korner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Apr 1, 2014.

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  1. tomw24

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    Post Mortem into death of Peaches Geldof inconclusive.
     
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  2. PompeyLapras

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    Well, what defines whether a club has professional status? I mean, for example, non-league sides, say St Albans City for example, give players contracts but they're all semi-professional. They're FA Charter Standard clubs if that means anything.

    Unless a competition is defined as purely amateur under it's rules, then surely it's a teams decision to go semi-pro and subsequently pro?
     
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  3. Joe!

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    Competitions do tend to be restricted to a certain status. I believe St Albans can only offer amateur contracts at their level, but could go semi pro if they got to the Conference South. I have a mate at Potters Bar and he's not on a pro contract. They signed him from Harpenden Town and were just allowed to approach him and he could leave without Harpenden being due a fee.
     
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    So not drugs or suicide seemingly. She had put her body through the mill with drugs and bulimia which can weaken the heart, but, very sadly. sometimes young people just die. I know of one case where a young woman just died...no cause was ever found.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

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    There is a shortage of sacrificed children now Nicola has left...and local horses have a distinct spring in their step.
     
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  6. PompeyLapras

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    Well that's a load of rubbish (not what you're saying, but the principle)

    I can't find the rules of the Women's Premier League so I'm not sure if it's the same there. Though it would seem silly that what was until last season the second tier of the women's football restricted clubs to being wholly amateur.

    Could there be a case for lifting the restrictions on professionalism if it is? I'm not sure how one would argue it, aside from the fact that if the FA are intending to grow women's football (which they claim), it's very much self-defeating. It'd be like the Premier League and Championship being professional/semi-professional and League 1 and under being amateur.....
     
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  7. Joe!

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    Well there have been proposals for football to go in the complete opposite direction and stop allowing professional contracts to hold players down. After all, it does go against the doctrine of employment law in this country, by which workers are allowed to move jobs as they please.
     
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    Don't know if mentioned, and no one probably is interested, but Maria Miller did resign this morning from the cabinet over her expenses claims. Poor showing from Cameron at PMQs today trying to defend her.
     
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  9. fran-MLs little camera

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    Not always...depends on your contract. I was in medical research...my company could stop me moving to any company that they felt was a threat to their security. Rarely happened...but they could have stopped my employment in medical research for a year. I also know of a hairdresser who cannot work in the same town for a year if she leaves her job. I bet there are other instances...if you sign a contract, you sign a contract.
     
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  10. PompeyLapras

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    Well.... On the one hand there's the freedom of movement aspect to not having professional contracts tying you down.

    On the other hand your employer should have the right to pay you for your labour and as an employee you should have the right to be paid for your labour.

    English football is a walking contradiction.

    But it sounds like you think they wouldn't have an argument even to lift the restrictions on professionalism,.

    Have no sympathy for any MPs that fiddled their expenses and certainly not Maria, but any PM of any party would do the same thing.
     
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    Just 3 women in the Coaltion cabinet now. 0 from the Lib Dems.
     
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  12. AL.

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    It's the Conservative Party remember. No one should be surprised about a lack of women. Sure, you can cite the example of Thatcher, but she wasn't your stereotypical woman MP, and many woman wouldn't want to emulate her.
     
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  13. AL.

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    The Lib Dems have barely any woman MPs as it is anyway. Sarah Teather is one, a former junior minister, but she is stepping down at the next election. Jo Swinson is a minister I think, and Kramer got a position after her election defeat in 2010, through the Lords/Mandelson route.
     
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    My MP is a Lib Dem woman, Tessa Munt. She seems OK.
     
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    So what's everyone's views on all female candidates?

    I mean, every candidate being a female?
     
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  16. Joe!

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    The point is you're free to quit at any time. And your new employer doesn't have to buy you from your previous employer.
     
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  17. PompeyLapras

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    Yes, but you can also just sit around doing nothing and getting paid for it. You can't have it both ways.

    Still think the situation with the WPL is complete messed up, but hopefully if there's enough pressure, the FA will relent. They've already relented about scrapping the FA WPL brand (if you can call it that).
     
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  18. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    This is one awesome Priest.


    [video=youtube;Jd6LbncpSIo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jd6LbncpSIo[/video]
     
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  19. Jose Fonte baby

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    All women shortlists are a form of positive discrimination, and is also patronising, so I don't support it.

    Think Thatcher had an all male cabinet. Women tend to support Labour, so they're bound to have more female candidates, as well as more MPs than the Tories.
     
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  20. PompeyLapras

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    I completely agree.

    Actually, of newly elected MPs in 2010, Conservatives had 35 while Labour only had 32

    http://www.totalpolitics.com/articles/4488/the-new-house-of-commons.thtml
     
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