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Match Day Thread Klitschko v Fury

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Nov 28, 2015.

  1. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    Watch the Savon fight and tell me he won it.

    If you think he did then we'll never agree on anything will we.

    I purposely go over the top slightly just to counter balance the HUGE hype train that is partly based on smoke and mirrors.

    I hope he goes on to win the lot and prove he's as good as many think he is.

    I think I could say the same about you regarding Fury. I'd say Fury has the highest ring IQ of any boxer today and despite being some 'chubby bloke" he actually moves faster and has faster hands than AJ, despite being taller.
     
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  2. carmen newell

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    only boxing for 7 months but involved "dealing with idiots" for many years before I retired so facing up to someone was never an issue. no longer live in Hull and use a boxing gym called Elite in Bolton. They are very good with small classes and you get to spar with pros as well as ams (pros before they fight so they can practice their defence)
     
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  3. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good. I'm trying to find somewhere in Leeds that'll take complete amateurs at a later age but a lot are too serious and i can't afford to the put the time in.

    Good luck with it!
     
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  4. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    Sharkys Gym on Meanwood Road and Tigers Gym in Meanwood are great for complete amateurs.
     
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  5. carmen newell

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    and you. best thing I have done in years
     
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  6. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it's probably more my laziness in all honesty <laugh>
    I'll look into sharkys thanks.
     
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  7. GLP

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    <laugh> like Wladimir?
     
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  8. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    No previous boxing experience then?
    That's quite a step, bloody good on you
    I've always said I'd have loved to have given boxing a go ( not really sure I like people punching me though!)
    My mid life crisis of choice has been snowboarding, although boxing might be safer!
     
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  9. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    He fought Wladimir in his first 16 fights? That's news to me.
     
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    Fury has only had 25 professional fights himself, which is only 9 more than AJ and Fury has beaten Wladimir Klitschko, who was the undisputed world champion - a slight difference to beating the frankly garbage Martin.

    Fury also beat the unbeaten Chisora in his his 14th fight for the British and Commonwealth Heavyweight titles. Chisora is still probably better than Charles Martin.

    I'm not devaluing either boxers achievements, it's great that the UK has so many worthy World Champions - but Fury is the better heavyweight boxer at the moment. He can switch between orthodox and southpaw without any detriment to his effectiveness. They'll all have to fight one another sooner or later - therefore the proof will be in the pudding.
     
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  11. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    You say that but you haven't taken into account the fact that I don't like Fury...therefore he is more rubbish than you might like to think!

    Spot on though that we'll find out soon enough which one of them is better
     
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  12. DMD

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    Nah, who ever loses the first fight won't have been beaten, it's bound to need at least one rematch to decide, unless some other pay day steps in the way.

    Fury's already said he's not there for the long haul, he wanted to prove to himself he could be world champion and unify the belts. Being stripped of a belt to have another go at Vlad has added a couple of fights. Be interesting to see if he sticks to that.
     
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  13. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    True
    Clearly Joshua hasn't fought opponents as good as those that Fury has fought. However I think Joshua has more of a chance of unifying the belts than Fury has. Partly because of boxing politics, and partly because I don't like Fury...
     
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  14. DMD

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    I don't actually mind Fury. He's his own man. He did what he had to do to make an other wise uninteresting fight between a dull boxer and someone most had never heard of into box office. I don't think he's enough of a company man for the authorities to let him go too much further though.

    Slagging off a giant athlete that's spent his life practising hitting people very hard, just before you're going to face him alone with just a pair of leather mittens for protection, and watched by millions certainly puts keyboard warriors into perspective.
     
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  15. dennisboothstash

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    Oh well
    We can't always agree
    I admire him, but don't like him
    I hope Joshua beats him if they do meet
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    I went to Fish Trades when I was about fifteen, I was utterly hopeless. It's harder than it looks, I couldn't even get my stance right, never mind knock anyone over.
     
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  17. TigerRoo

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    You should take up Martial Arts.
    I would highly recommend Taekwondo.
     
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  18. DMD

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    Boxing teaches many things, but one major one is that you can't judge a punch by the size of the one throwing it.

    Some heavy handed big guys could punch, but a wiry one with sweet timing can be more effective.

    I dread to think what it must feel like to be hit by a strong guy with good timing, especially at the highest level. Pro game is a different level again to amateur.

    Just as one example, how Eubank brushed off those blows from Benn speaks volumes for his toughness and ability to ride a punch.

    Having a go gives you far more respect for those making a living at it.
     
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  19. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    100% correct.

    It's also weird how some need accumulation of punches and some have one punch KO power.

    Golovkin is seen as the KO King but he never ends it with one punch. Andy Lee however can be getting dominated and somehow find one shot from nowhere that leaves his opp sleeping.

    I don't personally think you can train people to have one punch KO power, I think it's a gift that you either have or don't have.
     
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  20. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    But a 5' 9 stone black belt in ninjitsu would kick **** out of any boxer within 10 seconds.
     
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