Maybe Sutton used to be next to the river, but due to plate movement it's moved further away, probably due the Stoneferry fault line(which I may have just made up). A mate of mine built the hotel on the banks of the river, when they were putting in the foundations, they had to stop for archaeologists to check the site. They found some bones and completely shut the site for weeks, until someone realised it was probably just bits of a dead cow or bits of a 19th century polystyrene cup, or some such nonsense.
Maybe because the land was all marsh ('Ings') and Bransholme (Holm = island), until the monks of Meaux drained the land/their lands and gave the River Hull a definite course?
It's the city's proper name and it would be good to get away from 'Hull' and the unfortunate rhyming word 'dull' but Kingston Upon Hull AFC seems a bit of our mouthful, and likely to be shortened to Hull anyway, in the same away that clubs like Newcastle, Stoke, Burton are only referred without 'upon' etc.
The Church at Sutton's higher than the land on Howdale, so apparently the inhabitants of the churchyard have been sliding down the hill over the years and some popped up again when they were building along there. Each find meant a check on the bones, so it didn't take long before no more bones were 'found' but bits of the ground below the digger shovel started to look more chalky. Although of course I could just be making it up. I remember not that long ago they were resiting the Jewish burial ground near Castle Street and posted details of the occupants so any relatives could have a say. It appealed to my childlike humour to find one of the ones to be raised was called Lazarus.
If we're going for tradittion and formality, what about resurrecting Hullshire for those not blessed to be born within the City boundary? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hullshire Hullshire was a former district of England. The large county corporate was created in 1440 by Henry VI of England.[1] It took its name from the River Hull, which formed its eastern boundary. At times it included the East Riding of Yorkshire's other two boroughs, Beverley and Hedon. It did not include the city of Kingston upon Hull as this was a separate city-county. Hullshire was usually included as part of the East Riding, despite not being administered as part of it. Its status was abolished in 1889 as part of the local government reforms,[1] although the term was used occasionally into the twentieth century.
Sutton is built on a ridge, or a drift. Potterhill Lane is quite a hill, and the land falls away behind St. James' church and the big houses set back on Church Street (alongside the church).
That'll be to keep the "middling sorts" happy. What a cracking term that is. Kingston upon Hull: A County of itself
All captured for history threads [video=youtube;pHC8WPmPh3E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pHC8WPmPh3E[/video]
It's ironic that the boundary map on that link shows the area of Hull to be much bigger than it is now, you'd expect it to grow, not to have Holderness etc taken off it.
They must have thought the River Hull was deceptively wide, as they stopped for breath at Washington.
I'm a bit unclear how it included Hedon, given its Eastern boundary. It's the first I've read of it going that far, unless it's another thing like Sutton, where the Parish boundary is bigger and in a place that you'd not expect.
I wondered that, it's hard to tell as the map doesn't seem all that accurate, but it seems to be somewhere around Rowley. I wonder if it's High Hunsley, I believe it was quite significant at the time, as it was main signal beacon point?
Isn't it too far south for Hunsley? I'm basing that on the train lines passing through the caves. But my geography around there's not that hot and I'm too lazy to google ATM. I as hoping someone would just tell me.
Life's just an education. Nothing really to do with things so far, but googling for Parish maps and found THIS ONE I never knew hte church on Newland was to St Augustine of Hippo. That'll keep me amused for a while.
