Personally, I hope the club take the case to court, the courts will overturn the decision. Can't fully remember the exact details, the club who took the EFL to court and got the decision overturned got it in pretty quick. It's amazing, A spick is accused of racism against a black man, a white supremacist panel find the spick guilty saying he could've said it to the black man. The black man is unavailable for comment due to the language difficulties. The Japanese and Koreans are now up in arms claiming racism, and want to know why their players in the UK are not being called racist names. The Japanese Emperor and Kim Jong Un are both quoted as saying "it's racist to discriminate". Meanwhile, the Australian players, who feel left out are planning to take 2 Kiwi players to court for racist remarks claiming they thought they heard the Kiwi players call them White Aussie drongos.
Copied and pasted this from a "Support the Guardian" article. "Leko, currently sidelined by a serious knee injury, had a key witness in Charlton’s Macaulay Bonne during a case in which input from lip readers is understood to have been used." Two unlawfull acts by the so call independant 3 panel FA committee.
I'm not a great lover of racism, but I'm very definitely against hate speech (and I'm so glad so many referees have never heard my views on them! ). Seriously, though, there are numerous examples of equally upsetting hate speech. Think of the number of kids, particularly females who suffer eating disorders & even suicide because of body shaming. You think CP sufferers don't hear people call them spazzy etc? Calling someone a Paki was in no way offensive at one time. Why is it racist now? Simple - the hate aspect changed it all. The list goes on, but football doesn't recognise the hate aspect - only the headline-grabbing comments on someone's colour. You could call me a fat Scottish cnut in front of a ref & nothing would happen, but if you were black & I called you a black bastard, I'm in serious trouble. Why does this word 'black' evoke such a response, especially if the person is in actual fact black. Surely it's a simple descriptive term? Oddly enough, in Scotland, 'black' has always meant 'dark' as in mood or deed. Many historical Scottish figures were called Black Angus, etc. A good defence for a Scot!
Remember this? 4 match ban .... https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/19723020 John Terry banned and fined by FA over Anton Ferdinand incident please log in to view this image Chelsea captain John Terry has been banned for four matches and fined £220,000 for racially abusing QPR defender Anton Ferdinand. The Football Association found Terry guilty following a four-day hearing. A spokesman for Terry said the player was "disappointed" the FA had reached a "different conclusion" to the "not guilty verdict of a court of law". In July, the ex-England skipper, 31, was cleared by Westminster Magistrates' Court of racially abusing Ferdinand. The Terry statement continued: "He has asked for the detailed written reasons of the decision and will consider them carefully before deciding whether to lodge an appeal." to announce he was retiring from international football with immediate effect, saying his position had become "untenable". Terry's legal team argued the governing body's own rules dictated that his acquittal in court meant the case could not proceed but the FA believed their charge was distinct from the court charge. Liverpool striker Luis Suarez was given an eight-match ban when an FA disciplinary panel found him guilty of racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra last season. The panel stated at that time that simply using racist language was enough to constitute a breach of FA rules.
I’d never call you Scottish, mock jock. I agree with your general point, one example, when I was a kid I was interested in anthropology and the serious textbooks I read used to talk about different ‘races’. They were definitely not racist, they made clear differences were mainly superficial and due in most cases to recent adaptation - but they used terms like ‘negro’ and ‘negrito’ to describe some people (whether they were right scientifically ain’t the point, the point is they were trying to look at minor differences in the human race objectively and scientifically). my point is - it was always likely to be a sign of a racist to call someone ‘******’ given its connotations, but suddenly someone decided use of terms like negro were also racist, so we started using terms like ‘African’ then that became wrong and we moved on. It’s just a PC fad. The term that gets me the most us you are not supposed to say a ‘coloured man’, or ‘coloured woman’, you have to say ‘person of colour’. That only impinged on my consciousness in the last year, where did that come from? (I really mean, what is the rationale for one being ok and the other not?) it irritates the **** out of me. One reason is that real racism, singling out people because of their imagined racial differences, has ended up with people getting beaten up for No reason and at an extreme, large numbers being murdered. But this false PC stuff is about being in the know, it pisses me off because it actually gives calling out real racism a bad name, it gets in the way of seeing the real problem when it occurs. by the way none of the above is about kiko, as I don’t know what he actually said and did, I have no opinion worth writing on the subject.
Problem with so called racism, which realistically doesn't exist, is that it's all hypercritical and only used by those who use it to gain an upperhand cos they were losing in first place. British Censorship Board, same presumably in all Countries, read books, watch films, listen to songs and censor certain materiel in all 3 categories, and yet, especially in films and songs, the words ******, negro, chink, kooly, yank, whiteman, white Honky, White Supremacist etc all get through the censorship board and people are allowed, legally, to watch, listen and read everything. So the question is why?........is it one rule for the FA and one rule for the Censorship board, one rule for the legal system and one rule for the Censorship Board and so on. There's no such thing as racism if the British Censorship Board allow such remarks and name calling in films, songs and books. So called racism is just a last ditch effort by those trying to use it as a weapon cos they're losing at whatever, or trying to get free money through compensation. You get all these idiotic unintelligent movement groups shouting racism, you get "kick racism out" at football matches with there placards etc (not seen for a few decades) yet you don't ever see these idiotic movement groups protesting against films, songs or books, now why is that you reckon? By the way, last time I checked "kick racism out" were in a dingy office over a little shop, but you should see the cars they drive and the suits they wear, all paid for no doubt by contributions from FA and FL. It's all bull, and many people are getting sucked into it like a head job from a Hippo.
Let’s hope so as this is my main concern, though I was never fully convinced by Kiko, I fear that Meslier isn’t better and that’s why he wasn’t getting picked. Playing a cup game you’re probably not expected to win in a competition you won’t win is totally different to the pressure of playing at the business end of a championship promotion push.
Hopefully Wakey, but their are a lot of supporters who may be glad. Shameful some of the ****e that's been thrown at him. Another corrupt decision by a band of corrupt bastards. I just hope the young French lad doesn't lose his nerve and **** up like Kiko has at times. We all know what will happen if he does.
Wether you like Kiko or not justice needs to be seen to be done and so far the fa/efl have failed to do this. Questions I have 1) why did it take so long to come up with there verdict 2) why have we to wait until next week for the details 3) when was the club/Kiko made aware of the verdict Only Kiko knows what he said he should appeal this verdict if not then in my book he is guilty and the club should get rid
Just as long as we keep the ball away from the keeper as we have been doing it shouldn't affect us that much.
I'm not Kikos biggest fan as a keeper. From a team perspective it may even improve things. It's a wait and see situation. Regarding Kiko as a Leeds player and furthermore as a human being. Wether he has said anything or not (I have no idea!) this will hang over him and his family for the rest of his life. I kind of hope Leko and his mate are telling the truth because if they are lying then they have potentially ruined the fellas career and reputation already regardless of any appeal process. Nobody really wins here. Only Kiko, his family and Leeds United as a club lose out. The timing of it (friday night before Saturday dinner KO) is further evidence of the now blatantly obvious bias against our great club! Disgrace!
Obviously we weren't at the hearing, but even if he was heard to say mark the black fellow, that IMO isn't racist, ok maybe he could have said the number, but in the heat of the game. How good is his English, maybe the term negro which means black I think in Spanish was said and heard.
Someone has to they have been getting away with murder for years enough is enough Question what will the pc brigade do when we are all coffee coloured Just asking for a friend as I will no longer be on this earth when it happens
