Kiefer
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Wont harm him to have a break.
Hopefully he wont be able to attend any medicals either.
Clearly one of the players not jabbed.
If he had both jabs he would need to test but if clear could carry on.
I wonder how many more of our players have such a lax attitude to their own health and the health of those around them.
Don't they read the news. Worldwide 215 million cases and 4.5 million deaths attributed to Covid.
True figure much more as some countries have lied with their figures or are not able to count cases in isolated areas with little proper communication.
If he had both jabs he would need to test but if clear could carry on.
I wonder how many more of our players have such a lax attitude to their own health and the health of those around them.
Don't they read the news. Worldwide 215 million cases and 4.5 million deaths attributed to Covid.
True figure much more as some countries have lied with their figures or are not able to count cases in isolated areas with little proper communication.
Not this again.....leave him alone and any **** else that doesn't want it ffs.
We are almost 7.9 billion strong....so 4.5 million deaths is hardly the end of the species is it...........if I was you guys I'd be asking government to protect you from the inevitable cancers we will all have not some fking sniffles we may have to go through
My only issue would be from an employer stand point.
I'm paying you good money but you're unavailable for work.
There is something you could do to make it more likely you'd be available for work.
You chose not to go down that route. Why should I pay you?
I'm paying you good money but you're unavailable for work.
There is something you could do to make it more likely you'd be available for work.
You chose not to go down that route. Why should I pay you?
Stick your head in the sand then Aber. Hope you don't get it.
a 99 percent recovery rate>>>>>AS YOU KNOW IM NO GAMBLING MAN......BUT THEY SEEM LIKE GOOD ODDS.
now how many footballers have died from covid .................then see how many die of heart attacks in the game.......now the players aint stupid they know certain reports out there are saying clots are up in the vaccinated especially the under 40`s......now why would you risk a heart condition for the sake of a virus that has attacked the old and weak and rarely killed the under 40`s.
by the way i think most of the first wave were killed by government policy of not treating them above the points system which was most of the care homes population
but he`s capable of being in work just like most of the people who are being pinged by the track and trace app................fk me that young scot boy from chelsea now on loan at norwich ,gilmour had man of the match when they played england in the euro`s, yet hours later covid positive............the only thing not allowing normal is out of date politicians who are in the pockets of corporations.
Dont disagree about the reason.
Just saying it could be mitigated.
Dont think people should be forced to have a jab, just expressing a thought process.
Maybe if they dont want a jab they should modify their behaviours.
Aber, we're never going to agree and I know you don't place much store on facts and figures even though they give a more accurate picture than one's thoughts and feelings.
So, 10 minutes ago, total deaths attributed to Covid, 4,537,862.
Number of cases 218,739,556
Deaths = just over 2 cases in every hundred. 100% more than the figure you quote. A bit like Russian Roulette but with better odds.
Okay, 1 death in every 50 cases doesn't seem very high but I and most of the people I know don't like those odds. I'm guessing about 200 or so people live in my road. That could equal 4 deaths.
That number hasn't happened mainly due to the socio economic group involved and the general level of self care in the worst of the pandemic and (I'm guessing here) 90% or so double jabbed in the last 6 months.
However I know of at least 10 people in this road who have had it, some very seriously and hospitalised. 2 are still suffering with long covid.
That's just in my small part of the world and is a bit more than the "sniffles" you refer to.
Those figures are not a true picture as countries notorious for with holding true information such as Russia and China (nothing at all from North Korea) will not have given the full figures and many less developed countries where people live in very close groups do not have the ability to give correct information. Inevitably the correct figures should be much higher.
I agree it's down to everyone's choice as to whether or not they are jabbed but I also believe there should be greater emphasis on when or where people can go if not jabbed.
I want to go abroad this autumn and I can guarantee the majority of people on my flights will be double jabbed.
You are correct in saying the majority of cases are now in under 40's. In fact I think the figure is 50% of cases in the under 30 range. Thankfully it appears they don't get it as badly as older people - younger, healthier and more robust lifestyle, but I would add the word YET, to that. The more who get it, the more it will spread in that age group and in time the number of serious cases, deaths and longer term damage will increase.
Going back to the title of this thread, Kieffer, a footballer where it appears he has not been jabbed. Looking at the number of pro footballer positive cases in recent weeks, there are lots like him mostly falling into the under 30 group mentioned above. Due to the bubbles they live in, they think they are indestructible. That will work until one of them gets it badly and, heaven forbid, dies. We may start to see a change of attitude then.
Finally, in the last couple of weeks, one prominent anti vaxer caught it and, sadly, died. Before dying he said he wished he had been jabbed. Also another younger anti vaxer has caught it, is in a bad way, and has said the same thing.
So, you carry on as you are and believe some of the misinformation out there. I prefer to look at facts and figures.
So, 10 minutes ago, total deaths attributed to Covid, 4,537,862.
Number of cases 218,739,556
Deaths = just over 2 cases in every hundred. 100% more than the figure you quote. A bit like Russian Roulette but with better odds.
Okay, 1 death in every 50 cases doesn't seem very high but I and most of the people I know don't like those odds. I'm guessing about 200 or so people live in my road. That could equal 4 deaths.
That number hasn't happened mainly due to the socio economic group involved and the general level of self care in the worst of the pandemic and (I'm guessing here) 90% or so double jabbed in the last 6 months.
However I know of at least 10 people in this road who have had it, some very seriously and hospitalised. 2 are still suffering with long covid.
That's just in my small part of the world and is a bit more than the "sniffles" you refer to.
Those figures are not a true picture as countries notorious for with holding true information such as Russia and China (nothing at all from North Korea) will not have given the full figures and many less developed countries where people live in very close groups do not have the ability to give correct information. Inevitably the correct figures should be much higher.
I agree it's down to everyone's choice as to whether or not they are jabbed but I also believe there should be greater emphasis on when or where people can go if not jabbed.
I want to go abroad this autumn and I can guarantee the majority of people on my flights will be double jabbed.
You are correct in saying the majority of cases are now in under 40's. In fact I think the figure is 50% of cases in the under 30 range. Thankfully it appears they don't get it as badly as older people - younger, healthier and more robust lifestyle, but I would add the word YET, to that. The more who get it, the more it will spread in that age group and in time the number of serious cases, deaths and longer term damage will increase.
Going back to the title of this thread, Kieffer, a footballer where it appears he has not been jabbed. Looking at the number of pro footballer positive cases in recent weeks, there are lots like him mostly falling into the under 30 group mentioned above. Due to the bubbles they live in, they think they are indestructible. That will work until one of them gets it badly and, heaven forbid, dies. We may start to see a change of attitude then.
Finally, in the last couple of weeks, one prominent anti vaxer caught it and, sadly, died. Before dying he said he wished he had been jabbed. Also another younger anti vaxer has caught it, is in a bad way, and has said the same thing.
So, you carry on as you are and believe some of the misinformation out there. I prefer to look at facts and figures.
I see fake figures banded and you swallowed them up quicker than Debbie did dallas
I agree with this guy on the constant lies being pushed on people who watch mainstream propaganda.....they scared the fking life out of yous
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I'm glad you don't want people injected against their wishes......we don't live in China or native Germany do we.
Behaviours.... you have the seen the political elites and health officials enjoy big gatherings with no distances or face masks .......even the queen took the risk at the g7.......basically all bollox and the rules only apply to the people who have been scared ****less
So you know they're fake Aber? How?
More conspiracy theories? CIA behind Twin Towers disaster? Holocaust never happened? FBI shot Kennedy? Got anymore?
Not for you dude.....I'll leave you with the belief system you got.