The fact that it's now the norm for a trust to file an ACV on the stadium was raised at a committee meeting, it was decided that we should do the same, someone was tasked with doing it and they did it. There was no issue of wording, as all you do is nominate a building and detail how it meets the criteria required, I wouldn't need a committee to get together to help me fill in a passport application form, this was absolutely no different. How anyone can spend this much time, typing this much bollocks, about such an insignificant thing that all trusts are doing, is beyond me. You need to get out more.
Thought we debated stuff on here. Why do some have a problem with asking questions. Tom raises some interesting points. Do Hull FC have a supporters trust? Will they want to be included in this somehow? Will the council turn it down cos FC arent included.
We are debating stuff and TOM isn't raising any interesting points, he's just whining about nothing, though he's obviously welcome to continue. Hull FC do not have a supporters trust. The application can be made by anyone on behalf of the community, it will not be turned down due to no FC involvement, as it's completely irrelevant(though if FC want to form a trust, we'll happily work with them).
There seems to be a few misconceptions here. If the ACV is granted it isn't linked to HCST, it's irrelevant who puts the application in. It just needs someone to nominate the stadium and for Hull CC to agree. Anybody would think HCST were asking for the keys to the safe for crying out loud. The ACV will be tied to the stadium, not the applicant, no matter who they might be. It's such a minor thing there really is no need for all this hot air.
Hang on, you posted the statement!! If it is sooooo insignificant, why bother issuing a press release! What is the point of starting a thread if you don't want or accept any questioning. If you answered the question there would be no need for me to bother would there. So why the rush?
We haven't issued a press release, the HDM ran a story on this and the media contacted us for confirmation of what has happening. Though they could have just looked at our website, the details of this application have been on there since Dec 14th. All trusts are doing this as a matter of course, there's no rush, we just bunged in our application the same as all the other trusts. Why not file it now, for what reason would we delay it?
Answering a question with a question eh, ok. The answer that you have given is "why not". Now that is appalling, it puts you in the same area of communication skills as Assem Allam! No consultation, no valid reason, hey, lets just do it because everyone else is and by the way don't question us because doesn't matter anyway. Well done.
It's kind of you to think of me at such a critical time. I am taking TOM's advice and taking my time before commenting on the ****e I have been reading.
What’s all the fuss about? It’s an innocuous act that has no real benefit at this time but could do if and when the circumstances surrounding the stadium change. As it is a singular act of total neutrality, by which I mean, the result of it is only significant to whoever is in power at HCC and has simply brings to bear influence in how transparent they are in their actions – it sets a certain tone in the procedures – I cannot see that as being a bad thing, in fact I welcome it. The degree of transparency is a red-herring and indifferent to the simple action required to achieve it. I cannot understand what would have been achieved in delaying this routine and easily available application – after all, it has yet to be granted. All I can see is an open and honest action by a supporter’s trust who can be bothered to do the legwork. When I consider the effort taken to submit this application I cannot seriously see how it can be regarded as a distraction from other more important issues; which are only an opinion in any case. Perhaps we could have these more important issues listed for general consideration? Up until very recently I was undecided whether or not to join the HCST. I have been reviewing all of the key actions by the club, the fading CTWD and the evolving HCST and have decided that the only way to make a real difference is to become one of those being counted – so I have joined HCST. There are some issues that concern me still and I have previously discussed them on here, but I believe those concerns will be best aired democratically from within. The owner has lived up to all expectation in reneging on promises, disrespecting supporters and generally being a total Tosspot. I am changing my personal preferences by joining the HCST, just as I will start attending home games again (when possible from up here!), as the income principle is now dwarfed by other things more personal to me, so don't bother asking as a refusal . . . . The only reason I explain my actions is so it is clear in future conversations; just like the application, it's a matter of transparency.
Oooh best statement on this entire thing. Cheers Ren, I really didn't know that, and its quite significant and makes me feel a ****e load better so thanks.
Ignoring the ACV, I think a significant aspect of this, and other related discussions , is the doubts and mistrust a fair amount of people have toward the fans group. Some people are put off joining, which could be comounded if they're not voting on the new committee.
