I think there is an age limit for unaccompanied children. The child may not be able to attend because his dad is banned. Without knowing all the facts its impossible to come down on one side or the other. You would have thought the club would have exercised a little bit of commonsense if its a child's pass.
Is this the only business were if a paying customer (a pasionatly loyal one) demonstrates that he's unhappy you ban them and then continue to charge them?
I'm still staggered why 10k plus fans want to line their pockets week in week out. Does that letter regarding the direct debit surprise anyone, it's from the Allams isn't it. This is what they do. I got a birthday card from the club ( nice touch since im not a member) and the stupid bastards couldn't even spell my Christian name right.
Because hull city are my team and I won't let anyone stop me watching them now matter how I feel about them
It is an active pass if it belongs to his kid, he would have to give the appropriate notice and pay the final instalments to cancel that one. That pass can still be used, his banning order has no effect on it, he isn't the only adult that's allowed to supervise his kid and the pass wasn't sold conditionally on the basis he attended too. I get why he's annoyed that he's been banned but leagally he won't have a leg to stand on if he is indeed complaining about paying for the second pass.
Precisely this. I know everyone sees red whenever the Allams are involved, but this is a bit of a silly one to get backs up about.
Agreed, I hate them as much as the next person but they're technically right on this occasion, they have the law and contracts on their side here, they won't lose. Obviously it's just adding insult to injury after the ban and a more courteous owner would have just let him cancel both without charge. But we know what sort of people they are so it's hardly surprising.
As a side issue to this, if the new proposed concession is accepted no one else will be allowed to take the child in this case. Your ticket is only for you to use, misuse comes with a 35 quid fine.
Were talking £50 (ish) here. Have they ever taken action to recoup £50 ? I think it say's something in the terms about just paying the 2 month's if you ever want to join again.
City are my team too but when they clearly want to deceive you week in week out then enough is enough. Each to their own mate
So City won't sell the seat the adult had for any games? I know we aren't going to sell out any games at the moment but what if this had happened if we were in the PL and a game against Man U, Liverpool etc was coming up?
They can sell the adult seat because his membership was cancelled when he got banned, they can't sell the kids seat until he follows the procedure and cancels it properly. They don't need to sell the kids seat because they'll be getting money for it from him, either when he decides to pay or when they take action against him.
So, there could be circumstances when the kid would be unable to use the seat if the adult was banned. Or even if the adult was working, was ill...
Yes, and a adult who had nothing to do with the child could buy the seat if it was a high profile game with demand for tickets so he wouldn't be able to go. And, you are assuming everyone has friends or family members who want to spend the afternoon watching football with a kid who isn't their own.
Not really, unless there are rules that state the accompanying adult must have purchased both the adult and child ticket and that the adult is the only one that can accompany that child. If there are such rules then he'll have grounds to cancel without charge, although I suspect the Allams (or more likely their legal team) will have themselves covered in the contracts. His mistake was making this public, knowing how petty and vengeful the Allams are they won't want to lose face over this and they'll make an example out of him, after all they did ban him for petty reasons in the first place. The last thing they want is people just cancelling their direct debits to avoid the extra charges.
So, as I said previously and you didn't answer, what would happrn if we were in tbe PL playing Man U, Liverpool etc and there was a high demand for tickets? Would they not sell this seat in case someone decided at a later stage they wanted to accompany this kid?
They would sell the seat, if the person that wanted to accompany the kid didn't buy it then it's not the clubs problem, the rules state the kid must be accompanied by an adult, not that an adult has first refusal of any seat next to that kid. Depending on their definition of accompanying then the adult may not have to sit directly next to the kid anyway, even if they do there is always the option to buy elsewhere and move the kids seat for that game. We're talking about a highly unlikely situation here, although again I suspect the will have themselves legally covered in any contract, for all their flaws they're not idiots, they very rarely get caught out in these contentious issues.
