Chappaz your last post here is a bit disappointing for me, i thought i was reading 5-1 or the badger for a moment,all i see is us us us we we we, and no step back and look, just shoot from the hip and all love for the unwashed, that's whats disappointing for me, as i always had you down as a reasonable debater, who always saw sense over blind loyalty, you have shattered me percipience of you.