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JURGEN KLOPP LEFT FRED

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  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    You don't. You move on.

    Shankley left and his style was diametrically opposite to Bob Paisley, but it worked.

    What's important is growing up as a club. The senior executives have to grow up and become the face of the clubs continuity and be 100% backers of the players and manager.

    Fsg and thier reps have been able to vanish behind klopp for years. Now they have to step out and be the consistent voice as coaches and players come and go.

    In many ways we has fsg come in and rely heavily on ayre, Dalglish, comolli and the like as they had no clue. They bumbled along through crises such as suarez and appointing their silly little committee.

    Once they cleared house and put in klopp and then promoted edwards who also just hid behind klopp things started rolling.

    First and foremost we can't have a house of cards effect now klopp is exiting.

    They've appointed Edwards to a global role and Hughes as technical director. They need to start to speak as the consistent voice of the club and someone needs to represent fans voice/ response to fans.

    Once they have that consistency they need to deliver against it in all aspect but crucially transfers need to focus on player value, character and fit.
     
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  3. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I'm not really bothered about what goes on behind the scenes as long as it's rolling along nicely, it can stay hidden.

    I will speak for myself and say that an iconic club needs an iconic manager; Shankly, Paisley, Klopp, what's the common denominator? There you have it. It's no coincidence that they also brought the most success. As you say, we move on but we know the winning formula and the club has to pay attention. The organic move from Shankly to Paisley will never be replicated.
     
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  4. Zanjinho

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    Wasn't Edwards appointed before Klopp <confused>

    Edit; quick Google says no
     
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    Yep, great little video. Klopp was who I wanted, exactly what I expected and I've lived every minute of his tenure. Gutted for him to be leaving but nothing lasts forever :(

    As for moving forward... If the new manager is successful, we'll move on easily.

    If it's not a great transition? Well, that's when the fan resolve will be tested. Liverpool fans have historically been willing to give managers a chance but we're in a new age with keyboard warriors having too much of a platform to spout BS so who knows :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    Like the half-wits giving Nunez a load of stick.
     
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  7. Zanjinho

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    Exactly.

    My eldest does similar on FIFA (not abuse); win or lose he'll send a message either gloating or being mardy. Been trying to get through to him for ages that you shouldn't do something you wouldn't be prepared to do to their face.

    They just don't understand the consequences.
     
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  8. Milk..

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    So... Not just Klopp leaving.

    Assistant managers leaving. (Makes sense and no doubt slot has his own man/men).

    Fitness/Recovery coach leaving... Our players seem to recover quite slowly so maybe that's not a bad thing... <laugh>

    Goalkeeping coach leaving. Not sure how much he has to credit for Alison and Mr. K. But they're both great keepers.

    Several other coaches (total of 9) are all leaving rather than staying on to work with Slot. I don't remember them all.... But all staff that has helped Klopp manager. Not unusual of course for a large staff change when a manager leaves... But a lot of positions to fill.
     
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    We replaced Shankly with a better Manager in Bob Paisley.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Not to that job but he was at Liverpool in a lesser job basically.

    Fsg made him the technical director working with/for klopp
     
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    It depends on what you mean by better. Paisley won more but of the two, he will always come second in fan's eyes. Shankly started the process by bringing the club into the top division to be there in the first place for the success to start. He personified LFC more than anyone else connected to the club has ever done or ever will do. Gerrard was never Mr Liverpool, that title belongs to Shanks.
     
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    I'm not really old enough to remember either manager.

    To me Shankly was the manager that turned Liverpool into a world class side. Paisley was the one that kept them there.

    Just like Klopp turned us back into a world class side.... And hopefully Slot will keep us there. Hopefully.
     
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    I think patience will be key. Our fans are known for being patient, Hodgson aside, so let's hope the keyboard warriors can control themselves and try and be more like the match going fans. Too much to expect?
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Sir Bob learned from shankley errors and was more ruthless than ferguson. In his years he had 3 teams. The 1981 team and 1984 team and 1978 team had massive changes

    1977
    Clemence
    Neal smith jones hughes
    Callaghan case mcdermott Kennedy
    Keegan heighway

    1978
    Clemence
    Neal Hanson Thompson Hughes
    Case mcdermott souness Kennedy
    Dalglish faorclpigh

    1981
    Clemence
    Neal Hansen Thompson kennedy
    Lee mcdermott souness Kennedy
    Dalglish johnson

    1984
    Grobs
    Neal hansen lawrenson Kennedy
    Lee Johnston souness whelan
    Dalglish rush
     
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    Faorclpigh -what a player he was.
     
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    its like a cat has just walked over his keyboard
     
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    Not a huge difference between 78 and 81, only three players;

    Hughes to Kennedy
    Case to Lee
    Faorclpigh to Johnson
     
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  19. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Not sure Mito will be happy - Ward is back, new technical director at FSG - main dirties at lfc is overseeing the academy.

    Does seem like *** setting up a huge team to get this multi club links in place - not sure how I feel with it. Being top dog in that tea should bring many advantages. I guess if it helps develop links and allows useful loans to other clubs to develop will be good.



    Julian Ward is returning to Liverpool’s sphere of influence by taking up a new role with owners Fenway Sports Group (FSG).

    Ward will be FSG’s new technical director and reform his partnership with chief executive of football Michael Edwards.

    Ward stepped down as Liverpool sporting director in 2023, having succeeded Edwards in the role.

    With Liverpool at the pinnacle, Ward will join Edwards in overseeing all of FSG’s football operations.

    The Athletic, meanwhile, claim Ward will be tasked with overseeing player development across FSG’s football operations, including oversight of Liverpool’s academy, FSG’s loan department, group wide elite player development strategies and the establishment of FSG’s new football innovation department.

    The report also claims Edwards has appointed Benfica technical director Pedro Marques as director of football development and will report to Ward.

    Marques is reportedly regarded by Edwards as an industry leading expert in player development, career pathways, coaching methodologies and performance analysis.
     
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    I remember when football was a game...
     
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