I think that this was true until the East End started taking the piss when we had our first real shot in anger goal about 15 minutes from time against Leicester at home - I think he was securely in place to do the long term rebuild/restructure job until then but of course, once your own support takes the piss, you are in trouble and the BOD felt that they had to react... If SoD doesn't try and win an away game soon, I don't think he is that far away from the same treatment- I am sure that I am not the only one who heard ironic cheers from the hardcore away support at Derby on Friday night when we had a shot at goal with 15 minutes or so to go....
your argument is always going to be flawed to me because you base it on the fact that if Delboy had stayed we would have definitely been relegated based on what you THINK would happen! Bizarrely though you never apply the same argument when people assume the same thing about Gary Johnsons end of tenure, when to me it was blatantly obvious he would have also taken us down.. (Before you ask, I do now believe Del would have relegated us this season, my reasons for that do not all lie at his feet however, the man was hamstrung.)
I don't understand, you must be really deluded, it's down to him where we find ourselves, no one else. The board took too long in booting him out to give us a realistic chance of staying up. As for GJ, that was far more uncertain that we would be relegated under him and I still mark him down as one of the best managers this club has had. Doing quite well again for Yeovil I see! Ah well, might be interesting next season, when we will welcome both Father & Son. (by the way, both was never booed by me, IMO gave 100% for this club)
Prem it was infact 87 minutes for the first shot and 89 minutes for the second. I know you are right about a manager losing the crowd. There will always be a small percentage of moaners at home games whatever the result and score. They are only waiting for the first misplaced pass to start. BUT the away support is different and in my time the following previous managers having listened to ironic cheers or jeers like SO'D had to the other night at Derby, did not last too much longer. Peter Doherty in 1960, Fred Ford in 1967, Russell Osman in 94, Joe Jordan in 97, John Ward at Ipswich in 98, Millen, McInnes. I do not know how the away crowd reacted to Johnson, because I did not see any away game when he was manager. Unless SO'D pulls his finger out of his ass about the way we play away from home, he will be the next one to leave, whether of his own volition or the by the board driven by supporters. No goals scored in in the last seven away matches is a dismal record and while he has done wonders at home, even McInnes with his disorganised shambles, managed 14 away goals in 13 matches. That is not me being pro-McInnes; just a reminder of the facts. This is not a reflection of my feelings about SO'D. It is simply the fact of life for all football managers.
"As for GJ, that was far more uncertain that we would be relegated under him and I still mark him down as one of the best managers this club has had. Doing quite well again for Yeovil I see!" You see him as some sort of past hero, I see him as where this all started by failing to use the momentum the club had built, (that includes fans, chairman, and the 'Always believe era") He said he didn't need any new players as He didn't want to upset the 'changing room' it wasn't long before He was punching those same players around it. Doing well in league 1? Well He doesn't have a certain millstone hanging around his neck does he, and whether you believe He was guilty of nepotism or not it was the PERCEPTION of it that did all the damage, He shouldn't have put himself in that position! Perhaps then, I would too have fonder memories of his tenure. Wasn't it you that compared league 1 to "about the same level as the SPL" I wonder if you will afford Mckinnes the same courtesy if He does well with Aberdeen?
I hope and expect him to do well there, mind you, anyone with half a football brain could do well in that League!
Why don't you try for a job then, you think you know more than all these trained managers. You could be really successful and we mere humble halfwits could be praying for super Onefor to come and rescue us
The home results are great,the away results are poor,that has been the downfall,and the reason why we will be in league 1 next year. I really do not know if it is SODS or the players fault. Gut feeling is the players as a unit are not good enough.
Prem thats because its got nothing to do with the manager. ITS THE PLAYERS... They'll catch up soon!!!
I'm positive Prem, don't forget SOD has only had the chance to work with the players he's been dealt. Not had much say or anything else to bring some of his own in. So IMO, we can't yet judge him. NB. He wasn't my first choice to replace Del, but I do think he's a decent manager and a decent manager is what was needed from the start. I understand that no one was to know that Del wasn't going to be the new up and coming Fergie, but signs were their by November that it wasn't working out. I believe that the board should have acted sooner to give the new manager time to bring in players that he felt he needed in the January transfer deadline, as it was, Sean had to have time to see what he had to work with before knowing what was required. We can all see, that SOD has improved our home results, so a fair few players are capable, just a few additions required, I believe could have seen us to safety.
We are a poor FOOTBALL team - the latest evidence of this is Pitman who scored again today, that's 15, yes FIFTEEN since he left us.... Put a lethal finisher in a good FOOTBALLING side and this is what happens Put him in a side that can't play football properly and no amount of organsation will help you if you haven't got the quality...
I agree, although, that is league 1 and not the championship and IMO Pitman was not given a fair crack here and who was that down too? I have always shouted from the roof tops that the most important player a side can have is a creative midfielder, something we have lacked since being in this division.
RP - I dont agree with everything you've written on this thread, but that one is The most accurate statement of The Day da da da daaa, da da da da da..... I would also like to add that the money that did get spent was thrown away on bull**** loans, when it could have been spent on vamping our youth academy or rebuilding our Div 2 defence (Carey and Fontaine FFS) You dont like the word ****, do you. You must hear it a lot on here
