Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

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Borrow more, spend more, stifle growth more, give illegals more, tax the working class more, punish the self employed more, make unemployment worse more, make real UK people second class citizens more, make millionaires/billionaires quit the UK more.

And all avoidable, if any common sense was applied to a whole raft of things to stop wasting tax payers money.

And we thought the Tories were awful, which they were over a lot of things,
It's taken a lot of effort in a short space of time for Starmer and co to have virtually the whole population baying for their blood.
 
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Redprintt said:
.........Except Ashton <yikes>
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with an open mind! he says/said .. !! Likely he is very dissapointed ...
the MP for us is Kerry MCcarthy ..... liebour party .......... HOWEVER..... I wish she was any other party as she would get my vote! for local stuff she does seem very helpful and follows things up [9/10 ] BUT IS A 2 tier supporter and follows the party line so 1/10
 
John Kay tears Yvette to shreds .. finally an interviewer that picks up on all the untruth's and skirting around the Q's...

2 tier Granny Harmer brings in 2 of the people deemed responsible for the financial mess as advisors .. throwing Rattlesnake under the bus and to top it all.....................

LONDON (Reuters) -Britain sold a record 14 billion pounds ($18.9 billion) of new 10-year government debt on Tuesday at the highest yield since 2008, after attracting more than 141 billion pounds in orders from investors despite sterling heading for its worst day since June.
The UK Debt Management Office sold the 4.75% October 2035 gilt with a yield of 4.8786%, a premium of 8.25 basis points over the 10-year benchmark gilt that launched with a then-record volume of 13 billion pounds in February.
Shortly before the sale started at 0730 GMT, sterling slumped by more than 1% against the U.S. dollar and 30-year gilt yields hit their highest since 1998, as investors looked warily ahead to the government's autumn budget plans.
Britain has the highest inflation in the Group of Seven advanced economies as well as the highest government borrowing costs - putting pressure on finance minister Rachel Reeves and likely requiring her to raise taxes again later this year.
Tuesday's gilt syndication represented the most issuance at a single event since the DMO began operations in 1998, but also the costliest 10-year borrowing since an auction in July 2008.

PS THIS IS ACTUALLY A SORT OF BORROWING MONEY! ..promise was "NOT GOING TO BORROW" ....... If I was Rachael I would cut my losses and jack it in!
 
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Why are major and minor charities such as the Red Cross enabling illegal migration ? It’s about time they were investigated

And why has Graham Linehan been arrested at Heathrow by 5 armed police officers over anti trans tweets
 
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P M Q 's one has to wonder what exactly the .gov is actually doing............ NOT ONE answer to a Q! JUST the usual when in opposition tack of slagging off those opposite them!

go back just or 10 years and the contract for the Norway shis would have been £5bn. sounds good .. but hey ho £10bn SHOUTED but the rest of the sentence greatly muted!.. its over 15 years! [ lets say over 12 years thats £83,333,333 per year

we have created hundreds of jobs!!! .well still not created enough to cover those that have been lost as since July 4th 2024 every month UNemployment number has gone UP!

5 CONSEQUETIVE INTEREST RATE DROPS .......... Well first 2 the catchup from tory economy on the up and the last one because the BOE decided if they didnt it would harm the economy and seriously affect inflation [ which is steadily rising ]

A rather low snub disguised at a compliment to AR RISEN FROM THE RANKS OF THE COMMON PEOPLE TO BE DEPUTY PM! Designed to promote himself as some one special!

As I saw it he was a leg of pork being ravaged by a rotweiler!
 
AR in her tv interview looked very "p**** orf" at having been found out and has gone through a " mates rates" washing machine to try and absolve her from any blame ... and following in her groupen Fuhrers lead and thrown someone under the bus as giving her BAD info so had to go another party to come out with .. yes you need to pay tax! ..............and why is she bringing her disabled son into the argument!

ALSO BEAR IN MIND she pocketed a few well lots of £000's when sold her council house under "suspicious circumstances ...it is alleged!
 
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Angela Rayner will be gone.
Absolutely no doubt.
Her position, never mind what the official whitewash, sorry enquiry decides, the court of public opinion means she's toast.

Alas, our incredibly decisive Prime Minister, will wait, fudge,wait, fudge till she resigns or he, kicking and screaming, has to sack her.

Ps - Does anyone remember Rayner's screaming rants about Tory sleaze.
The hypocrisy of politicians is beyond comprehension.
 
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Redprintt said:
Angela Rayner will be gone.
Absolutely no doubt.
Her position, never mind what the official whitewash, sorry enquiry decides, the court of public opinion means she's toast.

Alas, our incredibly decisive Prime Minister, will wait, fudge,wait, fudge till she resigns or he, kicking and screaming, has to sack her.

Ps - Does anyone remember Rayner's screaming rants about Tory sleaze.
The hypocrisy of politicians is beyond comprehension.
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And good riddance to her, lets hope she takes more of this clueless government with her.

What goes around, comes around. Live by the sword, and die by it too.
 
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Reeves has come out in support of Rayner which just about sums it all up, they're both fiddlers and liars.

Meanwhile graffiti has been sprayed near Rayners new flat in Hove saying Tax Evader plus an expletive

If she won't go, then Starmer should sack her, if he won't do that then they should both go

Oh the drama <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
 
There are 2 photos in the media showing Starmer first of all backing the sobbing Reeves whilst Rayner's smiling. Now a few months later, of Starmer yesterday backing Rayner squirming while Reeves is smiling.

It's a flying circus straight out of Monty Python.
 
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There are 2 photos in the media showing Starmer first of all backing the sobbing Reeves whilst Rayner's smiling. Now a few months later, of Starmer yesterday backing Rayner squirming while Reeves is smiling.

It's a flying circus straight out of Monty Python.
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<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><cheers>

Its also great that Farage is in Washington D.C telling a shocked US Congress that the Starmer Government is suppressing free speech, and favouring and wanting to categorise Islam as a protected religion while everyone else's is ignored.

Starmer sat in the Oval Office with Trump recently and told the US President how we protect free speech, this was after Vance called out this pitiful government on the Lucy Connolly story earlier this year.

I'm sure Trump, and America in general has a very different view of things in the UK now.
 
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Alas, our incredibly decisive Prime Minister, will wait, fudge,wait, fudge till she resigns or he, kicking and screaming, has to sack her.
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Angelicnumber16 said:
And good riddance to her, lets hope she takes more of this clueless government with her.
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Angelicnumber16 said:
If she won't go, then Starmer should sack her, if he won't do that then they should both go
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to cover the above 3 .. with the greatest of respect! ......................

2teir Granny Harmer cant get rid of HIPPOCRIT AR .................. BUT HE CAN SACK HER FROM HER MINISTERIAL POST ..... AR will still be the deputy PM because THE UNIONS AND THE GENERAL Liebour party membership voted her in to the post .............. ! and SHE COMMANDS A VERY NUMEROUS SUPPORT PLATFORM!

MINISTERS and "Diane Abbot" ARE only ones? allowed on the front bench, so Hippocrit would likely move to back bench's, whether allowed into cabinet ...probably as needs to be up to speed with taking over the key and codes should anything happen to 2TIER and would need to be privy "other .gov" secrets/ happenings!!!

HER EXPECTATIONS OF BEING PM / leader are well documented so 2TGH is pretty much "sh#**#d with her! ... in place.

maybe thats why Rattlesnake is giving her a shoulder to cry on!........

A truly watch this space scenario ....... 2TGH HAS UNDERMINED Rattlesnake and is digging a pit for himself.
Rishi played a card on likely "thinking the British population" WOULDNT DO WHAT THEY DID on July 4th 2024 and maybe the new .gov might be labour with a small majority but the 8,000,000 didnt vote and gifted him a massive majority, that although he 2tgh thinks he "voted in" reality shows he had less votes than many labour PM's before him and the labour vote was pretty close to being "norm"
 
quite a audio bytes posted on AR's situation and noting all directions they cover it is complicated.
Bringing in her son really is a weird one and the trust fund makes it complicated .. the trust fund owns part of the house! 50% or maybe a % more?
to be honest about being dishonest!!!! you could concievably say it was an opportunity to "make a fast buck" Her first advisors ... were they given the right info? any info pertaining to all the pro's and cons? are they going to extricate themselves from under the bus!

IF 2TGH decided to call another election would he keep his seat ...how many would they lose and to whom! WHILST Kemi is getting a tad stronger at the box...she misses umpteen opportunities to [ taking a phrase from 2TGH ] SMASH THE GANGS [ Liebour .gov]! would a GE NOW BE TO EARLY!

I think politically Tories hold all the aces .. Nigel as PM 5/10 sir ED 5/10 Kemi 6/10 so looking for a 7/10!!!!!!!
 
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quite a audio bytes posted on AR's situation and noting all directions they cover it is complicated.
Bringing in her son really is a weird one and the trust fund makes it complicated .. the trust fund owns part of the house! 50% or maybe a % more?
to be honest about being dishonest!!!! you could concievably say it was an opportunity to "make a fast buck" Her first advisors ... were they given the right info? any info pertaining to all the pro's and cons? are they going to extricate themselves from under the bus!

IF 2TGH decided to call another election would he keep his seat ...how many would they lose and to whom! WHILST Kemi is getting a tad stronger at the box...she misses umpteen opportunities to [ taking a phrase from 2TGH ] SMASH THE GANGS [ Liebour .gov]! would a GE NOW BE TO EARLY!

I think politically Tories hold all the aces .. Nigel as PM 5/10 sir ED 5/10 Kemi 6/10 so looking for a 7/10!!!!!!!
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Its exactly the sort of thing that she and 2 Tier would be (and have both done previously) asking for sackings over if the boot was on the other foot.
 
Her resignation is a REAL smack in the gob for around 50%+ of the Labour faithful and the unions who put her there. her position as Deputy leader was unsackable! as the rules governing!

has she taken the easy way out? HOUSING IS SO FAR BEHIND schedule as to be a joke.. land grabbing ..like allotments and green field permissions real barrel scrapers from some one who doesnt have a clue.
She could have resigned as Housing minister only but chosen both. Now as a back bencher she can openly attack 2 TIER ... IS THAT THE PLAN!
 
JUST READ Kerry McCarthy's news letter on month's achievements ... good bad or lacking!!! Saddled with a Labour MP SOME OF THE THINGS SHE IS INVOLVED WITH GOES AGAINST MY THEOLOGY!!!!!
However there is a lot of good stuff maybe 30% I can agree with. I didnt vote Labour/tory or libdem /reform last GE .. would I vote for her next time! .....jury is out
 
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