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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Rum & Black for 2, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    No...you're not. You're giving an opinion that you believe is right. Big difference. I was a massive supporter of Jonjo on this forum but even I had to admit he was hopeless for us towards the end of his time here. On his day he is a definite match winner and he did that numerous times for us. But his head wasn't right and you know it. Now some players have greater fortitude, act professionally and get over that. He clearly couldn't.

    As for Toon I've little doubt that moneybags Ashley will get them back up as he did before. Pretty shocking that Shelvey is so highly paid.
     
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  2. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    You tell me who plays a good game every game ? nobody does so why would you expect Jonjo to be any different ? He was an asset when he played and that's more than i can say about 3/4 of our team today....
     
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  3. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Leon, who Jonjo was keeping out of the side because he was Monks pet monkey and undroppable.
     
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  4. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    Leave Dia be, you bully.

    :emoticon-0173-middl

    Concentrate on the positives, he's talking Newcastle up.

    :)
     
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  5. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Of course he did <doh> and how many goals did Leon score tell me <laugh>
     
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  6. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Hopefully that's the only time those words will be used in a sentence together this season <laugh>




    :)
     
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  7. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    You telling me that Jonjo is a better player than Leon?
     
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  8. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Dai doesn't understand that he's talking about two totally different type of players.
     
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  9. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Bless him <laugh><ok>
     
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  10. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Are you telling me Leon is better than what Jonjo could do...?
     
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  11. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Do I honestly have to answer that?
     
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  12. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    I'll do it anyway

    Dai let's list the all the qualities of each player.

    Shelvey

    Good;
    long passing
    long shots and free kicks
    Aggressive

    Bad;
    Wreckless and unpredictable
    Poor short passing
    Easy let's his head drop
    Slow to react
    Easily pressed
    Not a team player /blames others for his mistakes
    Reluctant to do his defensive duties



    Britton

    Good;
    Breaking up attacks
    Picking up 2nd balls
    Aggressive
    Short passing
    Composed on the ball
    Pressing
    Tackling
    Attitude
    Good core balance

    Bad;
    Heading (height)
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    That tells me everything i need to know <ok>
     
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  14. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Leon gets muscled off the ball by the bigger players and that is practically everyone......Leon has to have good players around him or he is as useless as a chocolate teapot.......A good player if the whole team is good and that's why he is on his 3rd season as a bit part player....far to lightweight for today's physical game
     
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  15. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Rubbish!!!! Some of the best players are small like leon. (Oscar, Silva, coutinho and Eriksen) His problem is that he's getting on now and can't play with the intensity needed for 90mins anymore.

    Our problems today are mainly because we haven't signed a player like leon.
     
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  16. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    And that is? Coming from a guy who goes off on one after reading a click bait headline without learning all the facts, (the Kingsley fantasy football article was a cracker even for you) <laugh> <laugh><laugh><laugh> Moreover, you struggle to see situations objectively and come up with the most illogical conclusions on this forum.
     
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  17. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    He has been dropped so many times that he was thinking of leaving so that's how good he is to us today....accept it man he will only play now if we field a weakened side in cup matches......that's the way things are im afraid and have been for a number of seasons......He has been a good servant coming through the leagues and when we were playing good football in the first couple of seasons in the premiership and even then he would be subbed very often.......Opposition players were running rings around him in the end as he was far too lightweight. You have to be strong and fast in his position......He should be coaching now or playing in the lower league today as his playing days in the premiership will be rare or not at all......
     
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  18. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Dai please refer to my previous post as it stated that leon is now only a squad player and is coming to the end of his career. And that one of our biggest failure is not finding a player with his attributes. Shelvey is not that player and never will be. Do you think it was pure coincidence that our form dramatically improved when he left?

    Shelvey with us struggled to nail down a regular place in the starting line-up if you can remember. I'm not hating on the guy but I do think he was overrated massively by pundits and the press because he was English.
     
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  19. ValleyGraduate12

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    No because he asked me. But I'm not answering him either ;)
     
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  20. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    <laugh>
     
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