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Johnson Released

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  1. Jack TheLad

    Jack TheLad Well-Known Member

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    This isn't a thread to go back over the incident(s) at all as they have been done to death.

    Adam Johnson has been released after serving 3 years of his 6 year sentence.

    Thought I'd start one relating to whether we think he should be allowed to play football at the highest level again given what's gone before?
     
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  2. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    Legally, yes he should be allowed. He's done his time and that should be the end of it, it's how the legal system works.

    In reality, his level of talent is nowhere near worth the amount of bad PR and subsequent financial loss that would come with him. He won't play in the Prem again.

    A league 2 side might consider it worth the bad PR, but I doubt it. Most likely he will end up abroad, probably in the Middle East, - loads of money and they all **** kids over there anyway so he'll fit right in.
     
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  3. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Cant imagine any self respecting footballer wanting to be his team mate.
    Marcos Alonso killed one of his car passengers by drink driving continues to make a living
    Lee Hughes did time for death by dangerous driving, leaving the scene, suspected to be drunk and was picked by league clubs afterwards.
    So it wouldnt surprise me if he did make a comeback mind.
     
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  4. Brian Storm

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    Of course not. There's kids and teenagers involved at every level of the game. Fa and FIFA need to exercise some safeguarding and keep him out of the game imo

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  5. FTM Dave

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    Remember he got 6 years, not 3, he's only been allowed out on licence. My legal knowledge is very limited, but I don't think the legal system will allow him to work abroad.
     
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  6. Nacho

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    I can't see him working as a footballer again. Some crimes can be glossed over and forgotten but not that one.
     
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    No sympathy whatsoever.... arrogant prof thought he could get away with anything... including cheating on partner, going with a 15 year old and having bestival porn
     
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  8. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Hopefully a sniper takes the dirty rotten child molesting bastard out.
     
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  9. monty987

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    Can't go to USA or Australia for starters but don't know about the middle east/China laws/visas whatever but do not get caught in them countries or it is curtains !..
     
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  10. BrAdY

    BrAdY Well-Known Member

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    that goal keeper who killed 2 kids is playing still
    so
     
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  11. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    He’s one thick c u n t mind!!

    Bart
     
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  12. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    He's more than thick. He's a nonce. That could have been any one of our daughters the slimy pig.

    As for comparing other players playing after they've committed crimes, that's hardly a benchmark, is it?

    I'd watch him suffering in an ISIS video with a big smile on my face.

    Scum!
     
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  13. brb

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    My view on the question, rather than reflecting on the incident as per the OP;

    Football teams are potrayed as community clubs, the professional image of the club is to bring smiles to the faces of poorly kids in hospital. To help the less well off kids in our society and to visit those in hospices. Along with giving kids the chance to be a match day mascot or a ball boy/girl and encouraging and practising with the young talented kids of the future to achieve their dreams, or just a kick about for fun. So who the hell wants a previously convicted nonce at their club!

    In any other job where you work with vulnerable people, you would be required to go through enhanced criminal checks, who would want to employ someone to work with vulnerable children when they have the word nonce on their record.

    People see this nonce's job as merely a footballer, it is far more than that, they probably spend as much time in the community around kids, as they do on the pitch during match day.

    Therefore his time may have been served, but his record is severly blemished and he shouldn't be allowed in an employment that works with young children ever again. The NHS wouldn't accept him and care care homes wouldn't accept him either, and football due to the nature of the community work shouldn't accept him, otherwise it makes a mockery of the wording community club, where kids can have fun and play safely, without some nonce leering over them.

    As Brian Storm rightly said about, it's called safeguarding.
     
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  14. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Mate you can't put a child sex offender back into an occupation that involves children. I deplore drink driving but surely you can see the differences between the cases. Daft comparison. This is an unprecedented situation in football and requires new safeguarding to set the standard to help keep living innocent children safe in the football world in the future.

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  15. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I agree, but I'm a bit uncomfortable having killers potentially around children as well. Wouldn't want my daughter looking up to them selfish pricks
     
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  16. sensiblegreeny

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    Luke McCormack who was one of our's when it happened and became one of our's again after his release. We did this subject to death one way or another and the feelings were split right down the middle. I have to emphasise that nobody made any excuses for what he did despite the fact that before this incident he was a really good player and a really nice bloke. He was stupid by getting behind the wheel of his vehicle and a family paid the price for his stupidity even if there was no malice in his crime.

    The British legal system allowed for him to be released part way through his original sentence. That isn't his fault if you don't agree with it, it is the fault of the people who make up the rules. The Question then comes what should he be allowed to do on his release. Bare in mind he was not a Prem player before so his income would not have allowed him to save a fortune and never have to work. There are two choices. Either he never works again in his field of expertise or he is kept by the State forever more and as he was only a youngster that would have been for years. The other argument is what if he wasn't a footballer but was a plummer or chippy. Would people say the same thing that he should never do that work ever again.

    The bottom line is he did his time as laid down and needed a job. He was a footballer and was still good enough to be a footballer again. He took a shed load of stick from opposition fans at every game with their chanting. He never once complained and I never heard anyone at Argyle say anything much in his defence. He did loads of charity stuff and community stuff, kept his head down and got on with just doing his job. I have grandchildren and had he killed mine I would never forgive him but if you separate the emotive bit from it all and look at it logically then it does look a bit different. It's certainly a hard one though.
     
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    Hope he rots in hell....
     
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  18. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Me too but he's not a sexual threat around kids in his daily job, he's not even a physical threat if we're honest. The comparison to AJ is ridiculous imo. To be directly compared to a nonce is very strong.

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  19. Brian Storm

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    And he's not a nonce

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  20. polyphemus

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    Normally I wouldn't trust The FA to organise a beer up in a brewery, but here is a BBC quote.

    The FA said "appropriate safeguarding restrictions have been put in place" regarding Johnson.

    But if we go back to the uproar at those Clubs prepared to take on Ched Evan after his release from prison, (before his retrial), then there's no chance that any Club in this country will want to take on that level abuse.

    Whether this is right or wrong matters nothing, it's the way things are.
    And there can be no complaints.
    Footballers are part of the entertainment business.
    If the audience chooses not to want to watch them, that's their privilege.
     
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