Well, even if he does go, there's NO way I'm changing my user name!!! I'd obviously prefer that he stayed, as some of his saves both last season and this have been immense and as othes have said, he seems pretty settled in Norfolk.
As I stated above, £10 mil is a lot of money to a club like norwich but why should we give away our British talent away for next to nothing in today's market when we have to pay an arm and a leg to get them in hence the ridiculous amounts championship players go for ie Zaha for an alleged £15mil if he leaves palace!
a footballer's worth is initially deemed by how much that player is worth to his current employers. during the summer, some people scoffed at talk of holt being worth close to £10m, but fact is, in reality he was always worth that (probably a lot more in all honesty to us) and at this stage, john ruddy is worth a hell of a lot more than £9m to norwich city â i'd say £20m is closer to his worth to us when you think about the rewards of staying in the premier league. if nobody wants to pay that (and nobody will) then tough, he's our player, he's very happy here and unless he suddenly states otherwise he's not going to be going anywhere so no need to panic. its only natural that bigger clubs will be interested in our best players because they are playing very well, but just because a club wants a player does not mean they will get him. people outside the club may laugh at a valuation of £20m for england's number two, but if they laugh then they obviously don't feel he will be of equivalent worth to them were he to sign for them.
Bit of a 'catch 22' situation developing here. If the collective wish is granted and City turn down big money offers where does that leave Bunn, who cost a fair bit of money and is at an age where he can't afford to hang around for years to get his chance, and also Rudd and Steer. If Bunn gets his chance and takes it, will City then get big money offers for Ruddy? If Bunn is as good as people think and Rudd and Steer have big futures as people suggest, what is the problem with cashing in on Ruddy when they can? People say £10m is not a lot of money but how much did our starting eleven on Saturday cost in total?
i have been convinced for some time that Bunn was bought with one thing in mind. to take over from Ruddy, and sooner rather than later, so this story comes as no surprise to me, and, for the right price, i can see no reason why it should not go ahead. Bunn, and eventually Steer, will more than fill the void. i say Steer because i think he will leapfrog Rudd and become a great goalie.
On a purely business level it would appear to make sense - get £9m or £10m in for a cashable asset for whom we have paid out a reasonable sum to hire in an able deputy (as well as two bright young things waiting in the wings) and then use some or all of that £9m to strengthen the team in other areas where options are less defined. Ruddy, as said elsewhere, is part of the backbone of the team and if (I say if) he did leave he would be a huge loss as he is integral to how the team ticks. £9m would be a useful addition to the bank balance especially as we would not spend all of that on, say, another striker. However, Ruddy's saves have equalled points won and we have to look at how much it would cost us if he was to leave in terms of points won or lost. No doubt that Bunn has been brought here for a reason but I hope that the club sees sense and keeps hold of Ruddy for the foreseeable future despite how attractive a big wedge for him may seem.
fact is, the better ruddy (or anyone in our team for that matter) gets, the more likely they are to leave for a bigger club. that's football - we know our place in the football world and there are always going to be bigger clubs than us. but it would either take an astonishing bid or for ruddy to make it known he'd like to leave for him to actually depart. i'd be amazed if he is still here by the end of his five year contract.
We haven't sold anyone that we didn't want to sell for the past 2 seasons (so says the Chairman). We are no longer a selling club. That said, I think Chris H thought we might lose Ruddy and so we, unexpectedly, got Bunn in last time round.
I know there is little point about in speculating but I'm going to: Things could go very well for NCFC and ruddy and his value increases, alternatively it all goes tits up, we get relegated. ruddy gets injured etc, value drops. How do you know when to cash in, always a risk. I'd take 10m now and I'm JR would be more than happy to be earning an £1m a year, cos if they did come in for him , i sure his wages are going to increase by 20k a week.
Being practical, we should not be looking to sell John Ruddy for less than £15 million. We have got decent back up in Bunn, Rudd and Steer, but none are nearly as good as Ruddy. We have to be prepared though that clubs such as Arsenal, Liverpool etc, are always going to be seen as a step up for players and managers (at least for the foreseeable future) and ambitious players may well be unsettled if a genuine bid comes in. I'd say sell for £15 mill plus.
I agree with HK, we've no need to sell so we won't be forced to sell for less than what he's worth to us. Should a suitable bid of £15-20mil come in, then yes, maybe it should be considered. From the little we've seen of Bunn, he appears to be an able back-up, with Rudd, Steer and Matthews coming through too. That £15 mil or so can then be used to finance the signing of "the next Holt" (who appears to be gaining near mythical status), and possibly other signings too, Swansea have to be looked at as the example to follow there. By selling wisely, and for considerable sums of money, the overall quality of their squad appears to have improved. Yes, selling your first choice 'keeper in January is always going to be a risk with regards relegation, so I suppose it comes down to how comfortable we are at the time. If we find ourselves in the bottom 3, then it's not wise, but if we're mid-table, and the bottom 3 look cast adrift, then it's probably worthwhile. Realistically, it's too soon to assess yet, and we've got very little evidence to suggest there's much substance to this rumour anyway.
some really interesting points been made on this thread. for me, there is always a tipping point and for john ruddy, that tipping point would be if a champions league team came in with an offer of £15m. i'd want £20m, but as i say, if the tipping point was reached i think it would be difficult to turn down. for longsight, who questioned why english players are valued higher, my take is threefold: champions league teams have to field four home-grown players in each team selection in that competition, therefore, if they can't produce their own, they buy and clubs can demand the earth for them; they are overhyped by the media - as a rough rule you can generally take two-thirds off their final transfer fee off to attain their 'fair' value, ie carroll - £11.7m, henderson - 5.5m, allen - 5m etc (all strangely liverpool players...); and finally its most peoples opinion (and i believe the correct one) that its good to have an english 'spine' of players in an english team for various reasons.
I think it probably was. What do you think is the going rate for an English international keeper who has only just turned 26 and has over 4 years left on his contract?
A lot less than £10 Million that's for sure and probably closer to £6 Million. You have got to be a regular international and play regularly in the Champions League that's for sure. Don't get me wrong I'm not slating Ruddy I think he's a great keeper but no way £15 Million
Problem is warky, wrighty got sold for £6mil how long ago??? and prices have rocketed! Around £15mil has to be a fair price (£35mil to liverpool)
There was me thinking we might be having a sensible conversation.... Lets say Ruddy is on 20k a week. If he is, it would cost someone over £4.5m just for his contract. Shall we discuss his ability, sell-on value and potential now?
