Joe Allen

The chances are slim Musty but I like your optimism, it wouldn't be a sincere one anyway mate.

I'll hold my breath

 

Top post terror

 

well said terror

 

How in any way is that patronising?

You obviously haven't watched much of Shelvey either.

£7M is peanuts for a manager at the top level, no one cares about that sum. He's hardly desperate to bring in ex Swansea players, it's something all managers do, and we do have confirmed interest in other targets (but don't let that stop you).

Yes, we spent badly... Everyone has been over this many, many times. Yawn. Also, it's worth noting our net spend over two years is around £45-50M, which is quite modest.

You don't seem to know much about Henderson either.

Clueless? No.

No mark? It's the internet mate, we could all be anyone and we're all no-one.

How sad, hope you get something out of being angry and bitter on an internet forum.

 

think the point was Henderson is worth nowhere near the 18 mill paid for him and the world agrees carroll was a shocking buy

 

Think Henderson was £14-16M but it's splitting hairs. He'll be worth it in a year or two, he shows glimpses of a very good player in there. Seriously, what do people expect a 21 year old centre mid to do, when his team is collapsing round him, when he's played out of position on the right wing all year? It's madness. Like most of our players, he was decent until Lucas got injured.

He's also the youngest current player in the league to have reached 100 league appearances, not really relevant but interesting.

The Carroll deal was shocking, yes, as the world and it's grandmother has already repeated ad nauseam.

 

agree rev, thought henderson was better at sunderland, time will tell, playing out of position always cruels a guy

 

Yeh, he's much better at centre mid. He's an eye for a pass but he works so, so hard. If a player isn't an immediate success they get torn apart these days, but when you work like he does, there's always a chance. We all tore chunks out of Lucas three years ago, but it was him getting injured last season that buggered us. Shows how players change.

 

being from ireland you know much about rory donnelly??

 

Northern Ireland! haha

I know that he was a reasonably promising young striker, don't watch very much local football to be honest, few people really do.

Decent return rate for Cliftonville of about 1 in 2.5 games, but I don't know if he'll make it in the Premier League. Who knows though, it'd be nice for the national side.

 

so true, apologise northern ireland, hope he does well, us scots and you irish need all we can get

 

We'd do a lot better if some of our players who are born in Northern Ireland, to Northern Irish families didn't decide for some reason that they are, in fact, Irish.

EDIT: Few examples - James McClean and Shane Duffy - both poached by the FAI despite having represented NI at under 21 level.

 

whole family system is a joke

 

It's political over here of course, but we could do with a couple of our good young players staying loyal.

A bit like Zidane being more Algerian than French, and half their players being of African descent, Senegal and so on.

 

they should play for where they were born

 

I'd say you should play for where you have lived for the first 16 years of your life, something like that.

I guess it's complicated when, say, an Iraqi flees to England as a young child with his family, but later in life wants to represent Iraq, despite being trained in England and brought up as English.

 

all too hard, if i was good enough i could have repped 3 countries, so stupid

 

Don't agree with that, musty. Very often your place of birth is an accident. My son was born overseas whilst I was there for two years. He was conceived in Wales, though, with both parents, all grand parents and great grand parents militantly Welsh. He does not consider himself anything other than Welsh although he does have an affinity for his birth country.

 

It's interesting... what makes your nationality - your mindset or your birthplace?

 

yes i was in the army and kids can be born in other countries, doubt mine would want to represent thailand, malaysia or singapore