................and hopefully both "sides" will learn and move on, with an amicable ending We don't want Sir Mikes tenure to finish on a sour note.
If it was a board decision then the whole board is wrong . Besides daiswan going on the rampage about Huw fo a few years , I don't ever remember anyone complaining about Huw before
Those were his personal comments made by him in the press as chairman,so its down to him, the press article was a piece from him and his view point , if that was done in conjunction with the rest of the board then they are all wrong !! there is no reason to tell anything to the papers, if there are issues with chairman and manager then do it behind closed doors,dont undermine the manager and weaken his position within the club for personal gain. The club are always proud of the fact "they let the manager manage" so they should stick to that IMO , what Laudrup has said about league within a league is quite accurate,maybe people dont like a bit of reality anymore i dunno... Chairman= do his job behind the scences,deal with contracts etc. Manager= manage the football team and deal with media . If you want a reason why Laudrup plays us down against the big teams this is it. All the big teams now look at the Swans as a Banana skin,they all know that with the lkes of Michu and Bony and our technical game we are a match for these teams if they are a few % off their high level,the big clubs now know that they are playing one of about 3 teams that will keep the ball better than them and if they dont have the A game with them they leave Swansea dropping points. Laudrup is smart enough to know he needed to dampen down expectations with fans and also with the big teams,we arnt little Swansea to these sides now,look at the selections of the Man city and Spurs teams, the idea of saying "they play for other things" is basic reverse psycology, its often known as mind games when the likes of fergie and jose use it, its a very subtle ploy by Laudrup to put the big sides in the comfort zone and to take all the pressure off us onto them, no manager especially Laudrup wants to go out and lose, what they say in press calls would be something totally different to what they say in the dressing room . The idea of saying things and it becoming a negative that effects players is only true if the manager is saying "look lads,man uts are miles better than us,dont bother busting a gut today ,just stroll around,we wont win anyway" Ive not seen that approach on the field,especially when we were beating Man uts at old trafford a few weeks ago
Leave Huw my best friend alone, He is not stupid and he can see the faults that laudrup has just as some of us can see. As long as we survive is all that matters now and Huw is only looking after our interest and if that means slagging laudrup off publicly because he wont listen to him then he is right to do so....you have to admit ml has been far too complacent in the running of the team and time is running out and jinx can see it like some of us can. A good kick up the arse from Huw was needed and hopefully we can get to the end of the season where they can shake hands and ML can move on to pastures new...
Because what Laudrup says in public and what he says in private are two very different things. Do people honestly believe that Jenkins is making these barbs in the media just for the fun of it? The relationship between the two is not good, mostly because of the Tutumlu saga in the summer. A saga largely instigated by Laudrup getting his mate to stick his nose in where it wasn't wanted.
The board didn't mind his nose sticking into our business when it suited, such as signings that are here today, some of our best signings for that matter. Did something happen that they didn't like, yes of course, but then how much free reign did they give the agent? Maybe they didn't, maybe they did. Do any of us know the full story, of course we don't, why? cos the board are not as honest as you pretend to think they are. They only tell us what they want us to hear. Only things that portray them in a good light, If they were as honest as some like to think, why didn't the match day article talk about their **** up on the Ki contract with Sunderland, or why they gave him guaranteed matches as part of his contract with us. So stop taking the stuff the board says as perfect, and ML is wrong, both are in it to make themselves look good. Both are right and wrong, this discussion will never end. Laudrup for me is playing mind games, the board are not happy with that, and for me the board are in the wrong. As pointed out, if he really was telling the player the max they can finish is 8th, then they wouldn't play against the big clubs, and we know we have played well against the big clubs.
Just who exactly are all these simple minded people that perceive negativity without thinking for themselves? Laudrup's just stating a fact, seems pretty obvious to me.
Could it not be that when Laudrup is telling the players through the media that we shouldn't be beating the big clubs is then reflecting all of the pressure on to said bigger clubs as we are 'expecting' to lose and therefore aren't under pressure to get points.
Agree. We ain't expected to beat these clubs and all of the pressure is rightly shifted on to the bigger teams, so we are then free of pressure to express ourselves on the pitch to get a result.
At the end of the day the Club is the employer and Laudrup is the employee. If there is cause then fire him, otherwise all this public posturing serves no purpose whatsoever.
Exactly , if theres nothing to talk about , don't say anything . Huw went looking for trouble and only caused the team grieve .
If the Club's mission is to (a) sustain and then (b) to build and challenge as one of the leading clubs in the league .... then terrific, state it as such. This is realistic, forward looking and does not contradict with Laudrup who is speaking about the realities of the here and now. Now, I don't know HJ so I cannot speak to his verbal eloquence or clarity of thought - and I'm not going to challenge or second guess that. I don't know his intent when writing that copy, or even if he personally wrote it. It may have been written by somebody else given some bullets on topics to cover (I find it tough to believe that a CEO of a Prem club is going to have much time to spend penning a page for a program). I'm going to give him (HJ) the benefit of doubt that he is acting in good faith and trying to convey the message I summarized in the last paragraph. But if not, then this external posturing, as SB just said, is pointless and in bad faith. If the page was ghost written and not reviewed before going to press then HJ may have had issues with what was published himself ... and all of this back and forth on this article is redundant.
We have another Sousa situation, and this season is damage limitation, in the summer Laudrup will be gone, another chapter will follow in our advancement, and our board will continue to mature with the experience they are gaining year on year. Some managers fit into our club profile very well, some not so well, Laudrup has had issues at other clubs, and he'll continue to with the spiv he has in Tutumlu, that's his choice, at the end of the day Jenkins has the best interest of the club at heart, and Laudrup has his own best interest at heart as he attempts to cut out a career in Management..................
Meaning a top class coach who somehow, someway does not kiss the right arse and the right time, but really understands and extracts maximum value from the talent on hand giving challenging situations ..... FFS. Such a good business practice to let another performing coach go and gamble that we can find the Sousa/Laudrup/??? version 3 and maybe, perhaps, this time HJ, the board, whoever isn't getting stroked appropriately will tolerate them for a little longer ... but how long will version 3 last. Perhaps it's time not to replace the coach, but to have some remedial man-management / human interaction skills training for the "executive class" in the Club.
Yankee be grateful for small mercies, at least we are not underhandedly elbowing Laudrup out like we did Sousa, now there's a story of lack of class, Sousa in my view was just as Professional as Laudrup, but he never got anywhere near the support financially, yet what he achieved went unnoticed by the great majority of Jacks, once they had closed ranks, even when I put a thread up thanking Sousa on the old BBC606, it was met with disdain, only a few Jacks appreciated what he had done that season, and one Jack that stood out in that for me was SamletJack!...............
oi you cheeky git, there were plent of us in the pro-sousa camp not just mr samlet !!... Damage limitation it may be but there will come a time when Jenkins gets the wrong man,then what ?? Our board are small time people who have problems dealing with top level pro's and top level buisness men, the Swans has become too big for them now IMO, look at the dithering with stadium expansion,not ordering enough shirts to sell in our centenary year, not even having any shirts to sell for this years kit launch ffs !! then you have the transfer deal that have fallen through because somebody did the paperwork wrong(edger) the deal where we couldnt play a guy for a year because we didnt get that deal through on time either, then there is the Ki contract,garenteed 20 games to start in !! dont know when his recall clause is, the list goes on and on and on ! This is what pisses me off,if they were doing everything correct they can then have a go at what the manager does,but first they need to make sure they do the jobs they are paid to do before looking at what others are doing or not doing correct ! The club agreed to work with Tutu,then they got worried it was going out of control, there was a three way mutual intrest Tutu=Laudrup=SCFC all working for the same thing,to make the club better which makes the manager better which makes the fans happy and the club pull in the right direction, personality clashes put an end to that, the club needs a guy that can conduct buisness, the people running it now are out of their depth. They need to delegate more things but to do that they must learn to trust otherwise they will destroy what they built because they hold on too tight !
I'm not going to be grateful, I'm going to be irritated. We're not Arsenal, United etc, who can fire today and sign another top-class guy tomorrow. Whether by luck or judgement or both, we've had a string of good coaches, with a few exceptional ones in the mix. Laudrup and Sousa (IMO) are the exceptional ones. When Laudrup goes - as they all do at some point since nothing is forever - who replaces him. It's bad enough when natural attrition occurs, and really tough when a coach is removed for incompetence, but to remove a top coach for these sorts of reasons is just plain dumb.
Martinez, Rodgers and now Laudrup will be moving on of their own accord and not sacked. ML has always said he is only here for the short term, and I for one trust the boards judgement in bringing in a new mamager when Laudrup DECIDES to leave. HJ hasn't removed a top coach
