January transfer thread

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Smug in Boots said:
Message from a very good friend who told me Hume was going to Portsmouth and Ballard was signing.

'I hear Josh Keys is off to Sunderland.'
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It's good that the club is consistently looking to sign talent. Keys appears to be very versatile which is a bonus.

I think people are not fully understanding the big picture by questioning where he will fit in the team though. In the summer (if not in this window), we'll have bids from the Premier League for Cirkin and Ballard. Within 18 months, we may have the same for Hume if he carries on his progression. The very best teams who operate this kind of model, do so by already having the replacement in the squad ready to step up.
 
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Roppa said:
What gets me about the Chris rigg situation, and it’s much more aggressive across the road than here, is if it was my son, and I’m as rabid a Sunderland fan as it gets, and the scum came a knocking with life changing money and maybe opportunities, I’d carry him there wearing his dirty kit, and most parents would do the same, always do what’s best for your kids and I wouldn’t expect to be slagged off for it by any reasonable person. So why constantly bring his family’s allegiances into it, the bairn and his parents will try to secure his future, wherever that is, and if we want to keep him then we need to match that opportunity.
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My nephew know the family and he says that the parents and the lad himself are unsure about next steps as Sunderland offer a much better chance to progress to first team football and allow him to grow but on the other hand money talks as well. Hopefully we as a club can convince him to stay and grow as the club grows he will see his route to first team football and will develop properly. Or go to clubs who instead of relying on youth just throw 90 million at the problem and buy somebody new to help out. If Man City were interested then that may be slightly different as they will give youth a chance
 
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Roppa said:
What gets me about the Chris rigg situation, and it’s much more aggressive across the road than here, is if it was my son, and I’m as rabid a Sunderland fan as it gets, and the scum came a knocking with life changing money and maybe opportunities, I’d carry him there wearing his dirty kit, and most parents would do the same, always do what’s best for your kids and I wouldn’t expect to be slagged off for it by any reasonable person. So why constantly bring his family’s allegiances into it, the bairn and his parents will try to secure his future, wherever that is, and if we want to keep him then we need to match that opportunity.
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We need to exceed that offer but that’s not as straightforward as more money. It’s better development and long term prospects that have to be superior enough to accept less money for the time being.
 
Flash Gordon said:
It is what it is. We are showing him our hand and it's up to him after that. He's clearly a huge talent and it would be fantastic if we could keep hold of him, but it will only be temporary - it's a matter of when he leaves rather than if.
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From a purely pragmatic point of view it’s how much he leaves for as well as when. It’s not quite inevitable that he goes but if he develops as well as he could it almost certainly will be.
 
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Late goal Scorer said:
From a purely pragmatic point of view it’s how much he leaves for as well as when. It’s not quite inevitable that he goes but if he develops as well as he could it almost certainly will be.
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Whilst I do not disagree that atm the young lad is a very much a talent.... there is no guarantee that he will continue on the upward trend when he is an adult!

Those that are more involved in youth football will know this better than I.
 
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Late goal Scorer said:
From a purely pragmatic point of view it’s how much he leaves for as well as when. It’s not quite inevitable that he goes but if he develops as well as he could it almost certainly will be.
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Of course this is correct. Keeping him 2 more years could be the difference between Sam Greenwood money (£1m) and Jude Bellingham money for the club. But ultimately, the only way we keep him beyond his teens is if he fails to fulfil his potential.

We need to win the argument that future earnings is greater by focusing on development today rather than by focusing on cash. That's a hard argument to win though if the lad/his family isn't financially secure.
 
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rooch 3 said:
I’ve always been taught take it while it’s there, who knows what could happen before the next offer comes in.<ok>
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This
Sunderpitt said:
Whilst I do not disagree that atm the young lad is a very much a talent.... there is no guarantee that he will continue on the upward trend when he is an adult!

Those that are more involved in youth football will know this better than I.
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And that.
 
Sunderpitt said:
Not how I read it, he wants Stewart to stay, so he is applying pressure. Sunderland should at least match what other Championship clubs will pay.
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unfortunately we can't complete with the likes of Burnley, their parachute payment count as incomings, so they can probably offer the higher bracket of wages.
 
young2077 said:
All players make mistakes. Name a player that doesn't. Only thing is a keeper and a mistake usually costs a goal so stands out more. Best keepers in the world male the odd mistake and cost the team a goal.
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Don’t expect a reply he’s been praying for that for months, he’ll be pulling his pud like a demented gerbil<laugh>
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Who was questioning me about Patterson making mistakes? I’ll not hold my breath for a reply.
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He’s very young for a keeper, mistakes are part of that. I’ve no problem with him making mistakes either, it’s all part of the development process. The objective is to identify the cause, address and eliminate the mistakes in future. If you’re looking for a keeper who almost never makes a mistake you’re talking huge money. Take a young promising keeper and coach him right then you’ve got another Pickford on your hands who was our best outgoing fee since Henderson.
 
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Scout73 said:
Not 1 person said he doesnt make mistakes. GKs, especially young GKs get punished for their mistakes.

Its like you are taking delight in one of our best young prospects making a mistake which is pathetic
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I am really enjoying seeing the lad go from northern league to no1 for us in championship in 12 months. The lad was given a chance and grabbed it!

Aye he makes mistakes but as I said earlier what player doesn't, unfortunately for keepers it usually costs a goal. But the lad is improving, would people rather we had the clowns we had last time we were in this league <laugh>
 
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