James McClean refusing to wear poppy on shirt

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RebelBhoy said:
TopTierToon said:
Not really, why would you exercise your freedom of speech against the people who gave you it? xercise it against the muslims or the terrorists or something at least viable, not wearing a poppy is simply him being a dick.
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The British army gave James McClean freedom of speech? Interesting. James McClean is from Derry. You understand that the people of the north of Ireland were denied civil rights. The British army opened fire on people who were marching to get those rights.

James McClean is from Derry, Martin O'Neill was educated in Derry

in 1972 the paras come to your town, shoot at your friends and neighbours, murder their kith and kin in an act that the British Prime Minister describes as "unjustified and unjustifiable". They lie about it throughout not one but two public inquiries. And continue to lie about it to this very day.

Would you sport a flower to raise money for those very same people?

TopTierToon said:
Also, wearing a poppy on his shirt wouldn't raise money for anyone, as he would not be buying one. It's like going to a fuuneral and booing. Costs nothing to sit there, be espectful, wear the poppy, say nothing and go home, but some Irish people are overrun by bitterness and can't see this. Yourself included, I am presuming?
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You can presume all you want. You have apparently made your mind up about me anyway.

The poppy appeal is to raise money for the British armed forces. Rememberance is the vehicle to sell it.

You want to force the young man to respect those that scarred the landscape of his town for 40 years and more. Freedom of speech means nothing to you.
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And Adams, McGuinness and Morrison did not use that atrocity as a vehicle to further their aims?
 
A question for Billy D,did you/do you feel the same about Charlie Hurley,Roy Keane,Mick McCarthy,Phil Gray,Jonny Evans,Niall Quinn,John O'Shea etc as you do about O'Neill and MacClean ie is it just those 2 or all Irish?
 
Don't waste your time with Roger, as we have seen in this very thread, all he EVER does is lose arguments then edit someone's post to say whatever the hell he wants, then continues the argument from that point......<doh>
 
RebelBhoy said:
So I'll ask again what that has to do with James McClean?
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I am quoting what you have written, why did he not wear a white poppy and explain why? He probably does not have that thought process.
He is playing a foreign sport though is he not?
He is taking the Queens shilling?
He resides in England?
His taxes help fund the supposed illegal occupation of the North.

He is obviously not that precious.
 
Can i just say thanks..

It may seem strange as from the op it went way of topic..

But it's been an interesting read from all sides, and this topic will always cause confrontation..

Everyone seems to have given as good as what they got..

So thanks to our lads, and also to our visitors Rebel, Saint, O'Toon and all the rest...

Been some interesting reading and views, and all are valid in their own way.
 
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