Jail/prison

Hoddle Is A God said:
Scrumping is a pretty serious offence in Dorset.
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Well it depends if your uprooting whole trees <whistle>

Always remember as a kid, scrumping was dangerous business near me, the farmer used to come out with his shotgun! I remember one time my bro being up a tree in a cherry orchard, I fooking told him to stay there as the farmer had spotted me, because he wouldn't get down in time. Then used myself as decoy to drag the fooking farmer away, it worked a treat thankfully.
 
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brb said:
Fooking hell mate, what planet you been on all these years, magistrates have always done as they please. Most the chat before appearing, was who you got today? Oh fooking shhite not him, you're going down bruv.
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Very true.
 
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Skylarker said:
zzz

Pick on someone that gives a ****... someone like Fossy.
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To be fair, poor Fosse has taken the mother of all rag dollings recently, what with his “Ron Jeremy” revelations and his self confessed preference for growler bushes.
 
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remembercolinlee said:
Personally speaking...For the first offence would give someone the choice of:

1) jail for a month and a year driving ban
or
2) 200 hours of community service with people hurt by drunk drivers do they learn empathy and the seriousness of driving under the influence and a 18 month ban.

I genuinely do not hnderstsnd why the law does not treat it with the seriousness it deserves unless someone is hurt as a result.

I do not drive and am amazed at how many drivers do not drive safely (not indicating, not seeing pedestrians on crossings, ignoring speed restrictions in residential areas and around schools etc but I get these can be mistakes, a lack of concentration etc but that is very different from choosing to drive after drinking (particularly while taking medication like Saunders did).

I find it hard to see the difference between choosing to drive a car over the limit and going out with a knife to be honest.

For a second offence there should be a compulsory 12 month sentence.

Not expecting anyone to agree by the way...cos you're all tossers...

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The prisons would be overflowing massively by the morning if you gave everyone a month then 12 months, they're bad enough already. Also, the recidivism rates are too high, you'd get people stuck in the cycle of prison and re-offending.

I get where you're coming from but where do we draw the line? Should you get a life sentence for carrying a pocket knife without actually using it?

I'd like to put a bet on the fact drink driving has effected me far more than anyone else on this site, it's destroyed certain areas of my life. But common sense tells me you can't just lock people up without good reason, and having 2 pints and driving home from a work do isn't good reason, imo.
 
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Skylarker said:
The prisons would be overflowing massively by the morning if you gave everyone a month then 12 months, they're bad enough already. Also, the recidivism rates are too high, you'd get people stuck in the cycle of prison and re-offending.

I get where you're coming from but where do we draw the line? Should you get a life sentence for carrying a pocket knife without actually using it?

I'd like to put a bet on the fact drink driving has effected me far more than anyone else on this site, it's destroyed certain areas of my life. But common sense tells me you can't just lock people up without good reason, and having 2 pints and driving home from a work do isn't good reason, imo.
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Great...my irrationality is met with calmly laid out facts...


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Suckmyklopp said:
Judas?
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Skylarker said:
The prisons would be overflowing massively by the morning if you gave everyone a month then 12 months, they're bad enough already. Also, the recidivism rates are too high, you'd get people stuck in the cycle of prison and re-offending.

I get where you're coming from but where do we draw the line? Should you get a life sentence for carrying a pocket knife without actually using it?

I'd like to put a bet on the fact drink driving has effected me far more than anyone else on this site, it's destroyed certain areas of my life. But common sense tells me you can't just lock people up without good reason, and having 2 pints and driving home from a work do isn't good reason, imo.
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If plod pursued and prosecuted all other crime with the same vigour they seem to reserve for the bloke who’s had half a pint too much, I think some people might view things differently - but they don’t.

My £800 lawnmower got nicked, they couldn’t give a toss. Told me it would probably end up in a boot sale. Yet there they are, hanging around near the pubs - often in unmarked cars, looking for an easy nick.
 
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Hoddle Is A God said:
Not missing the point, at all.

Just because you have a bee in your bonnet about drunk drivers is not a reason to throw them all into prison.

Depriving someone of their liberty is rightfully reserved for the more heinous of crimes.

I’m not saying that I condone anything Dean Saunders has done, I am merely pointing out that to slap him in prison “to make an example of him” (which appears to be the only reason advanced by the magistrate for doing so) is not correct sentencing procedure.
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Sorry but I have no sympathy for drink drivers, as they get into a lethal weapon when they're pissed. They are one of the worst offenders in my book.
 
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Blueman said:
Sorry but I have no sympathy for drink drivers, as they get into a lethal weapon when they're pissed. They are one of the worst offenders in my book.
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Luckily, our sentencing laws are not predicated on the views of white van man.
 
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NSIS said:
If plod pursued and prosecuted all other crime with the same vigour they seem to reserve for the bloke who’s had half a pint too much, I think some people might view things differently - but they don’t.

My £800 lawnmower got nicked, they couldn’t give a toss. Told me it would probably end up in a boot sale. Yet there they are, hanging around near the pubs - often in unmarked cars, looking for an easy nick.
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I don't think the cops do that so much these days, or not that i've noticed, but yeah they used to be a pain for it.
 
NSIS said:
If plod pursued and prosecuted all other crime with the same vigour they seem to reserve for the bloke who’s had half a pint too much, I think some people might view things differently - but they don’t.

My £800 lawnmower got nicked, they couldn’t give a toss. Told me it would probably end up in a boot sale. Yet there they are, hanging around near the pubs - often in unmarked cars, looking for an easy nick.
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Don't tag me blud I never nicked your lawnmower :bandit:
 
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