Why must people insist on telling us how the likes of Farah and Berahino 'fled war-torn nations'? What affect does that have on them [not] being British? They are African.
Mo Farah arrived in this country as a refugee. He is proud of the country that offered him this privilege. He happens to be incredibly talented and chooses to represent this country with that talent. Good for him. I'll celebrate his every success.
anyone can be BRitish if they chose and grab the right paperwork - i dont have a problem with that . But like i can have no claim to being Scottish or Welsh , you can only be English if you are born here . Even if u arrive from France as a 6week old baby , you are French If you leave England where you are born as a 6week old baby to India , you are still English But at no time can we tell that individual what they feel inside
Everybody talks about "Pride in the shirt" and you don't get that at international level unless you feel a real affinity with that particular nation. That isn't necessarily about where you were born or what nationality your parents were, although it probably is more likely to be influenced by one of those, it's about what you feel inside. It's not something you can necessarily explain, a bit like love, you feel it but you can't always explain it. Unfortunately, people who have been born in a country to two parents of the same nationality, are maybe not the best judges as to how someone who has more than one choice might feel.
I quite agree. When we think of 'pride in the shirt' and such, an image that springs to many a mind of that ideal, will be Terry Butcher playing with half his head hanging off. Born: Singapore To quote a Stussy line, "it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at".
Maybe legally but I think priority should come down to how you feel about it and also the family heritage. If someone is British in every single way except that his mother had to give birth to him while on holiday in Australia, I don't see why that kid should be Australian.
Why though? I mean if I chose I'd keep the British passport because I feel more British but why should I get rid of all of my mum's heritage? That heritage means a lot more in my opinion that the location of the hospital where I was born. You could raise a child 100% British, feed him British food, send him to a British school, speak to him only in English, watch English TV, read English papers and so on... yet do all of this while living in Italy after giving birth there. How on earth can that kid be considered Italian.
Fair enough. I only meant that if you are duel nationality and you happen to be good enough to represent both countries at football then you need to choose one. Although admittedly I was expecting a bit much when using a single word to try to convey all that.
Nationality means very little in some countries where tribal membership comes first. Also some ethnic groups such as Kurds don't consider themselves Iraqi or Turkish when they live in those countries. Not having a homeland of their own means they have to make certain practical concessions. British tax forms for overseas citizens ask where you consider your 'domicile'? It isn't necessarily where you reside at that point in time. Domicile could be infered as 'spiritual home'.
You're right - time for Yorkshire to secede! Robinson Richardson (F) Dawson Cahill Kilgallon Lennon Delph Milner Downing Jerome Campbell Subs: Kenny, Bromby, Sharp, Ellington, er, um... Why does this team have such a West Yorkshire bias? Other than Robinson, who else from the East Riding deserves consideration in the post-Deano era? (Don't say Prutton.)
