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Jack Wilshere's comments.

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by lewisc29, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    The current French team were all born in France, with the exception of Steve Mandanda who was born in the Congo.
     
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  2. rovertiger

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    Who needs mongrels eh?
     
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  3. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I love the people bitching about other countries doing this and then they cheer their tits off when the Somalian Muslim Mo Farrar wins.
     
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  4. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    The country you are born in is becoming less and less important as people travel around much more these days. It should be down to what passport you hold. Have a German passport, only eligible for Germany. Travel on an Albanian passport? Then Albania's your team. Duel passport? Bloody well chose you indecisive sod. Therefore to play for England you need an English.... Oh ****, wait.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    There's something I don't like about Mo Farrar, but I'm not sure what it is.

    I don't like daddy long legs either, maybe the two are connected?
     
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  6. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    If you pulled Mo Farrar's legs off, would he become deaf?
     
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  7. Barchullona

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    Klose was born in the Silesian city of Opole, Poland. His father, Josef Klose was a professional footballer played in Poland for Odra Opole.When Klose arrived in Germany in 1986, he knew only two words of German.
    Klose himself said in an interview in 2008 to Przegląd Sportowy that it would be best for him not to be called German or Polish, but European. As he stated in an interview to Der Spiegel in 2007, his family at home speaks Polish to each other, with his twin sons Luan and Noah learning German in Kindergarten. He has a Polish-born wife, Sylwia Klose.
    Podolski was born to Waldemar Podolski and Krystyna Podolska, a former member of the Poland national handball team in the Silesian industrial town of Gliwice (near Katowice), Poland.


    Not very German, really. As for Ozil, if he is German then Cliff Richard, Felicity Kendal, Julie Christie and Spike Milligan are Indian.

    Nothing racist in this observation , I cheer anyone in an England kit in all sports but just feel too many countries are misusing things to their advantage, including ourselves in somee sports and would prefer things to be altered.
     
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  8. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Poor Mo Farah. so famous no one can spell his name correctly.
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Nice cutting and pasting, in full
    Klose was born in the Silesian city of Opole, Poland. His father, Josef Klose was a professional footballer played in Poland for Odra Opole, before leaving the communist Poland in 1978 to France.[7] Josef Klose played for AJ Auxerre a French football club in Ligue 1 as a winger. Both of his parents were active in sports.[8] His mother, Barbara Jeż, was also a member of the Poland women's national handball team. In 1986, Miroslav Klose at the age of eight joined his father in Kusel in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate Germany. Josef Klose is an ethnic German and holds German nationality.[5] When Klose arrived in Germany in 1986, he knew only two words of German.[9]
    Klose himself said in an interview in 2008 to Przegląd Sportowy that it would be best for him not to be called German or Polish, but European.[10] As he stated in an interview to Der Spiegel in 2007, his family at home speaks Polish to each other, with his twin sons Luan and Noah[11] are learning German in Kindergarten.[12] He has a Polish-born wife, Sylwia Klose.[13]

    Bolded it for you. Plus he lived in Germany since age 8. Thats good enough for me and most sensible people,

    Podolski lived in Germany since 2 years old. Again for any normal people thats fine.

    I'm guessing you're a CI stalwart, hmm I'm going to go for Tim.

    Ozil

    Özil is a third-generation Turkish-German,[47][69][70][71] who, in reference to his game, concludes, "My technique and feeling for the ball is the Turkish side to my game. The discipline, attitude and always-give-your-all is the German part."[72] Although of Turkish descent, his entire life has been committed to Germany.[47] His ancestors are from Devrek, Zonguldak in North-Western Turkey.[73]
    Özil is a practicing Muslim. He recites the Quran before his matches. Talking to the Berlin-based daily Der Tagesspiegel, Özil said, "I always do that before I go out (on the pitch). I pray and my teammates know that they cannot talk to me during this brief period."[74][75] He observes fasting during the Islamic month of Ramadan however he has admitted that: "Because of my job I cannot follow Ramadan properly. I do it only the few days I can, only when I have a free day. But other than that it's impossible, because you have to drink and eat a lot to stay at peak fitness."[76]

    So a third generation still isnt German!! GTF
     
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  10. originalminority

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    Don't care what other countries and other sports do, I want the England football team to be English!

    What is the point of developing St George's Park to coach English talent if we are going to start importing foreign born players?
     
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  11. WhittlingStick

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    Didnt Hargreaves play for Wales though ? he may be able to get away with being "British" but as he wasn't born in England i dont see how he can be considered English.
    It doesnt bother me that someone born outside England wants to play for the National team , though i think it needs to be remembered precedents have been set
     
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  12. PLT

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    Half of Africa is for some reason considered French by the rest of the world. Sagbo is our own example and Mouyokolo was another. The annoying thing about Germany's is that it's all their best players that are eligible for other nations and yet everyone looks to them as a shining example of developing players. At the last World Cup they had players eligible for Poland, Turkey, Brazil, Ghana, Spain. There may have been more. I'm not sure what is meant by an 'ethnic German', but realistically it has to be down to a few common sense factors such as birthplace, parenthood etc. when you get these awkward borderline examples. Going on Grandparents is ridiculous and gaining players through them living in the country for a certain time as suggested with Januzaj is just absurd. Thinking about it Scotland and Ireland are probably as bad as anyone.
     
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  13. Erik

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    :emoticon-0119-puke:

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  14. Stuart Blampey

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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Sagbo born in Marseille and doesnt play for France you mean??

    Moyo born in France too.

    You really need to stop reading the gutter press
     
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  16. Barchullona

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    We aren't talking about Josef Klose who you put in bold. He was ethnic German because of an area he lived in which changed hands loads of times due to wars and politics. He and the son who we are talking about have Polish names.

    As I say it doesn't bother me other than it distorts what should be a level playing field as some countries will benefit, including ourselves, more than what others can do.

    I have seen the anti-monarchists claim that the Queen and her kids are German. No doubt you will put them right next time that occurs. Not that I am a pro monarchist but the people who that can't have it both ways.
     
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  17. PLT

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    I don't read any papers. I don't understand why it's accepted that they all report news from their own bollocks 'stance' rather than just the truth.

    Sagbo and Mouyokolo both fall into that weird 'are they French or African or what'? category. I'm not saying it's only one way around. Players from those two places seem to go both ways but it's still ridiculous. I'm not saying it's just France either. Seems like most countries do it except us. I hope we keep it that way. BBC are saying Wilshere specifically said England players should be born in England which I don't really agree with because it's more complex than that but I don't want any of this grandparents or acquired citizenship bollocks. There aren't even that many players eligible and worth it.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I know its his dad, thats why i put it. So his dad holds a German passport and he's lived there since he was 8. That makes him German in all right thinking peoples mind.

    Stop embarassing yourself side tracking onto the Queen. This is about football.

    Some people arent born live and die in one place.
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Please PLT stop writing you're making yourself look a twat.
     
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  20. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    On the subject of Wilshere, from early days of hearing of him/seeing him, he has come across like a self important, snide little prick to me.

    Pretty much typical of "product ****" that Wenger cultivates.

    I’m indifferent to his recent sentiment in the main, but push versus shove, it’s not unreasonable to expect players to have strong links (birth/heritage) to the countries they represent.
     
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