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It's the kind of thing that Adel Taarabt would do....

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  1. Azmi

    Azmi Well-Known Member

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  2. Swords Hoopster.

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    Didn't get nuffink wrong I'm afraid mate. Upon winning promotion to the PL I said I thought Taarabt wouldn't be up to it and he'd cause more problems than he was worth and so it proved. Fulham found out he wasn't interested in playing for them either.

    He's doing well at Milan now apparently and more luck to him but what does that matter? If we had Christiano Ronaldo on our books but he didn't give a toss, what use would he be? Goat has just made the same point about another player on another thread:

    The ship has sailed COL. Just let him go...
     
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  3. Queenslander!!

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    He cant mate..he's squirming to save any face that he previously had..i suppose he's waited 3 years so he's entittled to have a go!!

    Good luck to adel where ever he may be, but hes done nothing but (alledgedly) put us down whilst at fulham (family club) and now at Milan (wasted 3 years)

    Thanks for what you did adel all that time ago, but why people would defend him now is beyond me..? how many other ex stars dsaid what he did?

    still waiting for that answer col and those questions PD

    IMAZ- you're just being a hypocrite. <ok> - no oppolgy needed for this one. just calling it as i (and others) see it...Deal with it<ok>
     
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  4. Peter Damage

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    Go on!!! Say the sentence and bring it to a conclusion and at the same time confirm your madness or at least your inability to admit you were wrong.

    You prefer each of; Krancjar, Benayoun, Maiga and Will Keane over Adel

    You&#8217;ve admitted your pleased he&#8217;s gone and by consequence your prefer those who we have brought in as replacements. I use the plural because you cant pick one player and say it was that one individual for Adel.

    You Queen&#8217;s and all the others who were pleased that he left are by extension pleased that we signed: Krancjar, Benayoun, Maiga and Will Keane because you could have left out anyone of them out and kept Adel instead.
     
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    Generally I'm with you in this debate Damage, but that logic just doesn't work. It's like saying if you don't like the colour red, you, by default, must like green, blue and yellow.
     
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  6. Azmi

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    It matters a great deal as it means more money coming to the club to buy players with.
     
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  7. Swords Hoopster.

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    That's whats called putting words in other people's mouths mate.

    Whether the players we brought in have been any good or not is besides the point really. Taarabt had to go. End of story. He didn't want to be here and he hadn't performed consistently for us in two and a half years, nor for Fulham when he went there.

    Sometimes you just have to admit that a player's time at a particular Club is up and move on, Damage.
     
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  8. Azmi

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    Best way to remember Adel would be to name something at the new stadium after him. "The Adel Taarabt Stand"? On second thoughts "The Adel Taarabt Restaurant" with eat as much as you like buffet.
     
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    Adel is still a QPR player, so his time isn't up. I'd love to see him playing for us again in the PL next season, but now he's playing at the level he is, I doubt he will play for us again if we are lucky until he's about 35, like most of our current squad. But he should bring in millions handled properly.
     
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  10. sb_73

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    The Adel Taarabt Shisha Lounge. Next to Stan Bowles Turf Accountants, Gerry Francis Hairdressing Salon and Terry Venables Financial Advice booth. And the Mark Dennis Rehab Clinic.
     
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    Agree, and the nearest bus stop should be called Adelstrop, the nearest pub the Adelsfield Arms, and a stand section the "Adel Taarabt Stand"
     
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  12. Peter Damage

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    Errrrr explain how that&#8217;s so and expand that analogy?

    You can only sign a finite amount of players and of course can only play 11 players at once. Some of those players are there with the emphasis on attacking and some on defending. The four players I listed (Kranjcar, Benayoun and Maiga, Keane) like Adel emphasis is on attacking.

    Adel would generally play for us when having one striker on their own upfront. Behind that striker you have three attacking players (left centre or right side). Benayoun and Kranjcar best position is in these roles so a direct comparison. Keane and Maiga are primarily centre forwards.

    Adel is far better than Kranjcar and Benayoun and rather than them playing I would have rather we kept Adel so he could have been selected ahead of them.

    Maiga and Keane are centre forwards and even so I would say that out of position Adel is a better centre forward then them. Chelsea away for example he reached a level in that position neither of them could. Also they have both played in a 4-4-2 but I would say we are a stronger team with either one of them droped and Adel as part of the attacking three in behind.

    So SB or anyone else considering that I have now explained what I thought was obvious, it would be great if you could please explain the colour analogy, clearly and not just throw a meaningless statement out there without backing it up.

    And Swords, Queens Adel, or any other Anti Adel poster &#8211; as we own Adel under contract and didn&#8217;t have to let him leave unless we saw the cash bid as acceptable &#8211; every time that Kranjcar, Will Keane, Benayoun, Maiaga or even Toilet and BZ for that matter walk on the field in a QPR shirt instead of Adel, can you finally answer a direct question? Are you really are happy that it is them and not Him?
     
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    Its just logic. Disliking Taarabt does not have to mean Swords likes the long list of trash that you mentioned. He can dislike them all and still not want Taarabt. Your point MIGHT be true, but that doesn't mean it MUST be true.
     
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    Wow- the not606 board coming down to semantics&#8230;

    Not sure where did I insinuated that he can&#8217;t dislike those players as well?

    Swords you say &#8216; he had to go&#8230;&#8217; Well it is a complete fact that he didn&#8217;t have to go. He was contracted to the club so whether he went was down to Harry. Harry decided that he wanted him to go and the board allowed this.

    So as he didn&#8217;t &#8216;have to go&#8217; it was a question of worth persisting with? Because he didn&#8217;t play consistently well over the last 2 years (albeit during that period he scored goals and turned in performances of the sort of quality he is now regularly doing at Milan). And I say 2 years because we are talking pre-Fulham here.

    Now there are loads of hypotheticals here- you say he&#8217;s not done it for 2 years so by insulation can he still do it next year? Can we still manage him when he turns up for training? Does he want to be here, more so than say a BAE for example who&#8217;s played God knows how many times this year??? But we can never really finalise those arguments and opinions as they are hypothetical.

    But what you can finalise is&#8230; only 11 players can walk out on to a pitch would you rather Adel or some of those that have had to play instead of him. Because short of Adel out right refusing to play football which would be in breach of contract then he has to be considered as one of those 11 players.

    So when you make that call on whether he was worth persisting with you obviously have to factor into that assessment who plays instead of him. On plenty of occasions this season that has been Maiga, Kranjcar, Keane Benayoun. So you have to consider the consequence that in getting rid of Adel on loan (not for money) you have to playthese alternatives&#8230; therefore I ask again are you still happy that we have go rid of Adel when the consequence of that you instead have to play Maiga, Krancjar, Maiga and Will Keane?
     
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    The bit in bold (your bold) in the top quote may have misled me. No apology for semantics, its important to make sure meaning is clear. I apologise if I have misunderstood your meaning.
     
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    No apology needed- gave me a chance to more clearly define it and await a response from the anti-Adel mob. But to be fair to Swords and Queens at least they&#8217;re brave enough to come and front up their opinions. Many others were piping up when Redknapp took the mick out of him when he was trying to leave Fulham but have now gone quiet.

    Hoping they finally answer the direct questions which I think are fair questions to ask (even Swords said it was a fair question before not actually answering it)

    At the very least the anti &#8211;Adel posters have learnt &#8216;to be careful what you wish for&#8217;
     
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    Swords and Queens are trapped by their history on Adel, just like I'm trapped by my past statements on Redknapp and Barton. I stand by those comments, as I'm sure the lads do on their Adel stance, but I've realised its just terminally boring repeating myself endlessly. I'm going to have to cut it out with Bloody Luke Young soon as well, I've got nothing new to say.

    I'd like that as a brutally honest epitaph - "He had nothing new to say". Perhaps softened with "But he said the old stuff quite nicely".
     
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  18. Swords Hoopster.

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    Damage you're a clown.

    I don't know if this will mean anything to you but are you aware that your 3 o'clock post mentioned the name "Adel" TEN frigging times? Yet all the other players you mention, you call them by their surname? Maybe its semantics but I think that betrays an idolization of a person more suited a teenage girl and a member of a boy band, than a grown man and a footballer. Not to mention the point I made yesterday about you never commenting on any other subject or any other thread unless your sainted ADEL has been mentioned. For God's sake man, take a hold of yourself!

    In answer to your question, yes, I would take all those sh*te heaps over that other disrespectful sh*te heap any day of the week - useless and all as they are. I've long since had enough of that other cu*t. These F-ers have another 2 years to wear me down so.
     
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    Waheey!!!!!!! Got there in the end.

    You admit you prefer loan signings likes of Keane and Maiga over Adel and i'm the clown?!

    Part of your reasoning is that he is disrespectful. Avoiding another thread of debate about Adel on that I am sure that you must absolutely hate Barton because there is no player in the history of the club that has been more disrepectful because you wouldnt want to be a hypocrite as well

    Happy Friday
     
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