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It's the kind of thing that Adel Taarabt would do....

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  1. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Yes...........unfortunately :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  2. Queenslander!!

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    Rubbish..Leicester and Burnley would do to him what Robbie savage did..although i will admit we'd have probably been more entertaining

    What the F**K is that supposed to mean...I hope you are not playing the "race card' against a black person, because it'll make you look pretty stupid if you are?

    Col, did I or did i not say to you that hewould benifit from a move abroad and playing in itaould probably suit him...? come on admit it..we all know the answer anyway

    Simple facts are tha NO experienced prem manager wanted him, and the only one that did was proven a clown and sacked...
    as for PD's reply, is he trying to say that he didnt go anywhere else because Milan were in for him?...absolute garbage..They could have had him 2 seasons ago after he first flopped in the prem
    He's at Inter because NO ONE else would take a chance on him..in ANY other league...
    There 96 clubs in England (i believe) and not 1 came in for him.
    He's had some good games at Milan but he's also warmed the bench a fair bit too. not sure that makes him a star.

    Sorry for the delay in replying but I'm currently trying to arrange brother in laws funeral, get my misus back to Uk and look after kids...I'll be a bit scarce for a while.

    PD. i accept your critcism of HR totally but facts are if you take him completely out of the equation. theres still a lot of other experienced managers out there?

    Danish...i dont hate the guy, just dont lok at him with the rose tinted specs that some do. He was good for us 3 years ago..agreed.
    he aint done much for us since then....agreed ?
     
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  3. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Adrian Durham mentioned on Talksport that Adel is scoring and doing well at Milan whilst Fulham and QPR are floundering, he's regularly trashed Adel on his programme but can't quite make sense of what's going on, can any of us?...
     
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  4. Queenslander!!

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    Just a quick point for some..Leicester have hit 86 points with 6 games to go...even with our magician..they would still be far above us...look at our promo year....

    Those who think we'd have won the league may need to re-examine...<ok>
    #justathought!
     
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  5. Peter Damage

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZWj9AfPOM
     
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  6. Azmi

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    The whole Taarabt thing needs to be dropped. he was one of our greatest players of all time and has now moved on to considerable success at Milan. We stand to get a few millions from his sale and let's wish him well on his way to realising his dreams.

    Enough, let's treasure the memory and stop the bitching.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EcA8yrgQvs
     
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  7. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Imaz, with the greatest of respect, you tell us to drop it but in the same breath say he's one of our greatest players of all time and post up a video of him!

    As for you Damage, do you have an Adelometer that alerts you to whenever a post is made about him? You only ever seem to post about Taarabt. You could be gone for two months but the moment someone says something about Tarbs, you're on here quicker than sh*t off a shovel!

    Look, there's wild variations of opinion about this lad. Some say he was one of our greatest, others - including myself - say he was one of the most overrated considering what he actually did for us. That will never change no matter how many arguments we have. I hope we don't get another player like him for a long time because as far as the fans are concerned, he was one of the most divisive characters ever to wear the shirt.

    At least now we can slate whoever we want and pretty much everyone is in agreement :)
     
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  8. Peter Damage

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    Very nice in that you miss me so much Swordsy. I&#8217;ve never been away for 2 months without positing but I&#8217;ll take it as a compliment it feels like that to you sometimes.

    Take a look at the other threads on the front page and I&#8217;m not interested- couldn&#8217;t care less about: cliqueness, not interested in debating; the Masters, Ireland&#8217;s state visit, Hull&#8217;s name change, heartbleed, pub quiz, the women&#8217;s team, Levi Bellfield, or Wayne Rooney.

    Only other thread&#8217;s on front page I&#8217;m interested in is the &#8216;wider malaise&#8217; and &#8216;Must be positve&#8217;. Written on one and left the other because put a similar thread on a few weeks ago -83 days until our greatest day out so said my piece there.

    Adel as you know has always been one of the hottest topic on here- the anti-Adel mob have been changing their story and avoiding direct questions (Queens) for a good few years now. So it&#8217;s now quite enjoyable that he is excelling at a club where he was previously mocked for saying he would sign for (of course the anti-Adel mob caveated his signing by ensuring he wasnt able to succeed no matter what- if he succeeded well this was only Serie A and if he didn we would also have got an I told you so).

    The delight at his departure at the start of the season by a significant amount of posters was pointed out by others including me as a mistake. Now that we have to watch BZ, AJ, Kranjcar, Benayoun, Maiga and Will Keane instead and be bored to tears on a weekly basis I find it quite amusing watching the likes of yourself and Queens again change the benchmark and your story: &#8216; he had to have gone to another premiership club&#8217;: no reason given. While you move the topic onto areas like &#8216;some say he was one of the greatest&#8217;

    What I am interested in is the like&#8217;s of yourself, Queens and Eamon to realise that we would be better off if he was here instead of those players I have listed

    So back to Imaz- I disagree that we can say it needs to be dropped (it&#8217;s still relevant because we are in the middle of a season where we still own him and will do at the year end and add to this the history and what we are having to put up with instead. Posters who want 'to drop it', do what I do with the threads about he Masters and Irelands State Visit- ignore it
     
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  9. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    I never said that mate. Just to make that clear.

    Fair question. Yes I was glad we got rid this year, I wouldn't say "delighted" though.

    With the team that had come down and the amount of dead wood that needed shifting out, he was always going to be one who'd be considered. He made the Managers mind up for him though when, while trying to do away with the non-tryers and change the whole atmosphere at the Club at the beginning of the preseason, Taarabt reverted to type and didn't even bother to turn up for training. Not that any more evidence was needed that he didn't want to be here and felt he was too big for the Club, but at least that put the fastener on it. Redknapp had no other choice but to move him on and I think he made the correct decision. 100%. That feeling has been subsequently confirmed by his similar flopping at Fulham under two different Mangers, both of whom recognised early on, that he was not interested in playing for a "small Club".

    If Redknapp had forced Taarabt to stay, he would have continued to have a negative impact in the dressing room and besides, the team would have to be sculpted around him like it was under COLIN and I think at that stage it would have been an almighty gamble. Remember, from the moment we arrived in the Premier League, Taarabt wasn't up to it. His performances were very poor and we'd have been better off selling him to Italy or somewhere at that point. Would his level of performance have shot back up once back down at a level of English football he could handle? Whether it would or not is immaterial IMO because building a team right around this central figure, who could through a tantrum and let you down at any moment, would be very difficult to do successfully a second time around.

    Maybe it would have worked (although I doubt it) but at that point I and many others had just had enough. So, like I said, I was glad to finally see the back of him to be honest.

    The current crop aren't much better but I'd take a group of average players over one immensely talented but ultimately destructive one, any day.
     
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  10. Stroller

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    It shouldn't have been a question of forcing him, he should have encouraged him - arm around the shoulder, good old 'Arry, the great motivator and all that. Under another manager, Taarabt would still be here and very likely ripping up this league like he did last time. Taarabt was never one of the couldn't give a toss brigade. He cared, but Redknapp doesn't. Easier to get rid and get some 'good lads' in like BAE.
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster.

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    Nonsense mate. He wanted out, pure and simple. His time at Fulham was a mirror image of his time with us.

    There's only so much encouragement these multimillionaires should require anyway. Was 30 grand a week not motivation enough for him to try to apply himself? How much more disrespect to your Club were you willing to take when he couldn't even be bothered to report back for preseason training?

    We'd already been subjected to two PL seasons of dross from him. People's patience only lasts for so long.
     
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    It seems to me that Taarabt had given up on the club because Redknapp had given up on him. Too difficult, too much like managing. It's like the Kevin Pietersen scenario, whereby England have lost their best cricketer because he can't be 'managed'.
     
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  13. Peter Damage

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    I agree with Strollers points and At work now and got a meeing at 3 away from office so have to be quick and too quick to go though all those points in detail but the have been done- He cares about QPR a lot ore than 90% of the rest of opur team does and more than the manager does. WBA away was one quick example to me that showed both how he cared and didn&#8217;t flop in the premier league. Again you are judging him with a separate and artificial yard stick in three years of failing teams. Also even if he did under percfrom in those three years he is now proving like sof me right by matching and excelling in a team with Balotellia nd Kaka and keeping Robinho out of the team.

    As pointed out and I&#8217;ve said already we could have insisted he stayed unless we received the money that he was worth say £8m plus. This would not have come then he needs man managing.

    You also overlook how he matured over the years. Saw Ray Wilkind talk about him recently and he used 0-0 at home to citywityh Adel matching Zabaleta aruns on our left all night as evidence of his changing work ethic.

    And above all else you are pleased we got rid of dead wood and non tryers and brought in Maiaga, BAE, Keane and Kjrancjar instead says it all about your bias
     
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    Probably true, had already happened at Spurs which is why he ended up with us in the first place.

    Taarabt has now slimmed down considerably which adds to the mismanagement theory.

    'Something's rotten in the state of Denmark' as today's Twitter flurry also appears to indicate.

    Edit: Milan's owner, Silvio Berlusconi is being sentenced right now, betting is on house arrest or being sent to an old folks' home.
     
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  15. QPR Oslo

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    I agree with this. I don't doubt Adel is difficult to handle, unfortunately players of his immense talent usually are, at least when they play in England where too often they get rubbished for not running enough or spending too long on the ball. But Arry never seemed to have the time for Managing him, not at Spurs or with us. Looking at the other players we have with exceptional skills I don't see them improving a lot either. Ravel made a good start but last 2 ganes he seems to have gone right off the boil, Arry probably will be happy to send him back to Hammers at the end of the season. Hoilett is still running into dead ends like he thinks he has to emulate SWP somehow - think he was better at Blackburn. Kranscjar is a great player when fit, Croatia International, but Arry don't seem to be able to get him fit.
     
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  16. Swords Hoopster.

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    Despite the fact that he was still employed by the Club and being paid 50 times more than your average man on the street, why then did he have similar outcomes with COLIN, Jol and Meulensteen? Once, you could excuse as two personalities clashing, but four times and you'd be blind not to realise there's something wrong with the player's attitude.

    Some supporters must think very little of the Club when they consistently excuse someone of treating it with such blatant disrespect.
     
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    Back in the good old days - Taarabt wins out on taking the penalty kick over Helguson, who afterwards seems to have a few words in his ear, possibly, "I'm taking the next penalty"?

    [video=youtube;dVMpmJwG4zQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVMpmJwG4zQ&feature=youtu.be&a[/video]
     
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  18. rangercol

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    I have to say that, in the light of Taarabt's continued success at Milan, it really is highly amusing to watch Swords and Queens wriggling like caught fish as they still try to justify their views.

    Come on guys..................just admit that you got it wrong and we can all move on. <ok>
     
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    Taarabt reminds me of many young graduates that I've had the misfortune to recruit over the years. Most of them had outstanding qualifications and undoubted ability, but because of this wanted the rewards and the top jobs, upon which only then were they prepared to show me what they were really capable of. That they were unproven and lacking in experience mattered not a jot to them, as far as they were concerned they weren't going to roll their sleeves up and do the photocopying, make the teas and coffees, do the bank run, answer purchase ledger queries or anything that the rest of my team (including myself) was prepared to do. Oh no, this stuff was well below their talents.

    This was Taarabt at QPR.
     
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  20. Queenslander!!

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