That's the really worrying aspect, take Derby for instance, they won't need much motivation...
It's getting nasty...
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That's the really worrying aspect, take Derby for instance, they won't need much motivation...
The above is certainly the impression I get from afar, and reading this forum these days.
We are a 10th, well in reach of the top 6 (and a relegation place). With the holes in team particularly at CB and RB, which are due Budget restrictions not Ramsey, I think his performance is completely acceptable so far. Like another poster on here with the bear face (sorry can't remember your name) give him another week!
You can't really say we have gaps at CB and RB with two RBs out on loan and four senior CBs. If we get the best out of the defence, it should be more than good enough. Any defensive problems are down to coach and the general inability of the supposed 'defensive' midfielders.
W4, D4, L4. I'd probably have taken that at this stage of the season. You can't be on it and consistent every game right from the word go. Who knows if CR is given the time maybe things will click and we'll put a run of form together. Friday night is huge though, we shouldn't accept another performance like Fulham but the fans need to show their support and not look for the first opportunity to barrack the team. The team will feed off of positive energy just as it's currently dining on the negative. As for Henry well it seems at QPR we need a pantomime villain every year and this is no different. People soon forget he was probably in the top 5 best performers for us last season.
That's all well and good but you can't say he's been anything but absolute dogshit this season and keeps getting picked when we have such a plethora of midfielders.
Three clean sheets this season, two of which were without him, our supposed enforcer
By all accounts except the Henry haters on here he did good yesterday. He certainly wasn't hiding.
Think part the reason you haven't realised the extent of the issue with Henry is that the main criticism many have of him isn't that he does certain things badly. Its even worse then that.... He doesn't do anything!!!!
Stats support this theory. Undisputed that he doesn't contribute going forward (and certainly others not getting a game do more here). And he makes on average a pitifully low amount of tackles (1.5 a game) for someone in his position. He rarely gets on the ball, again others on the bench also do more here
Because he rarely gets on the ball, it wasn't till you noticed him cocking up in the 52 minute. Remember this is a position that should get more touches of the ball than anyone
Seeing as you are so specifically able to point out when he first did something really wrong can you point out a list of what he did right?
Don't imagine I missed much because king happy clapper who sits near me, got excited, for; a tackle in the second half, laughably when he shepherded a ball back to Green (not that he was protecting it from any MK player) in 1st half, and when he was under pressure in right back area also in first half and went to kick it up the line and the MK player blocked it out for a throw.
Not exactly first name on the team sheet for Brentford material (for any rational person surely)
These sanctimonious posts about how Ramsey was right to play Fer off JET... well yes of course, but the problem is he wasn't playing there for the 60 minutes of ****e that preceeded that!! So he got it wrong!!
Luongo is much more familiar playing deeper, and he can add an extra dimension there through carrying the ball forward from deep and covering a lot more ground than either Toszer and Henry.
We haven't turned in a decent performance since the Newcastle game in May. Its only since 3-0 down against Fulham that the fans turned. What was the excuse before that?
So its wrong to say that the toxic atmosphere has come about because of the bad performances. The bad performances have instead produced the toxic atmosphere and Ramsey should have known that playing Henry was adding fuel to the potentially toxic atmosphere
JET got us out of a hole
Ramsey likes to bemoan 'individual mistakes' whenever we concede but on that occasion an individual bit of quality out of nothing swung it massively
Loftforwords player ratings this morning had him with a 5.3
The lowest rating of anyone
So that coupled with the, 'off, off, off', the booing and the cheers when he went off suggests you are mistaken.
He didn't do much wrong yesterday but that's because he didn't do anything
Game passed him by
I thought he did ok. Was probably the easiest match all season given there was no obvious playmaker to mark and for the vast majority of the game we were on top. Didn't do a lot wrong but didn't do much of note either. Doughty can do his job at least as well IMO and will be wanting out if he doesn't get his chance soon.
I felt bad when Henry's substitution was cheered - he's playing crap of course but it's not his fault that the manager selects him regardless of his complete lack of confidence. Having said that, anyone who is willing to put up with the comedy team selection, tactics and - most frustratingly of all for those that actually attend games - the almost deliberately strange substitutions without comment is a saint indeed. Thanks God he's been forced to put some organisation back into the defence with the return of Clint Hill. The trouble is that he has so many midfielders to choose from that he's unlikely to be forced to start Ali Faurlin which is what the team is crying out for.
I for one don't expect and demand success, just some sign that the club is making some effort to entertain the fans and is using its limited resources wisely. Nothing could be further from the truth at present.
I for one don't expect and demand success, just some sign that the club is making some effort to entertain the fans and is using its limited resources wisely. Nothing could be further from the truth at present.
I suppose it was also Ramseys fault that Hoilett was on the pitch and had the audacity to score......
I've said it before and I'll say it again....we are mid table side at the moment despite the fact that those who we thought were going to leave actually stayed, that doesn't alter things that much. Anyone is capable of beating anyone in this league.....10th at the moment is ok, stay in touch with the leaders and then push on from January/February onwards......there is no point in being top 6 at the moment as there are another 33 games to go, besides we only need another 30 odd points to avoid relegation......
I've said it before and I'll say it again....we are mid table side at the moment despite the fact that those who we thought were going to leave actually stayed, that doesn't alter things that much. Anyone is capable of beating anyone in this league.....10th at the moment is ok, stay in touch with the leaders and then push on from January/February onwards......there is no point in being top 6 at the moment as there are another 33 games to go, besides we only need another 30 odd points to avoid relegation......
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Had it taped years back that an infection was coming and here it is
No point in saying much more because it will get worse and it's not just QPR
I predict riots and locusts
Why? Because it's natural Anglo Saxon The mob is divided and controlled by fear or pre occupied with tech.
One starts at a football match and the virus spreads quickly
When I went with Flyer once to watch QPR v Newcastle Flyer had to shut me up because I was defending Bosingwa ... In that match normal men around us changed into animals
So I challenged one or two and it was amazing how they backed down
But once the mob goes many just go along with it
Bosingwa was a very good player yet because he appeared not to care he was murdered
It will get worse
No point in saying much more because it will get worse and it's not just QPR
I predict riots and locusts
Why? Because it's natural Anglo Saxon The mob is divided and controlled by fear or pre occupied with tech.
One starts at a football match and the virus spreads quickly
When I went with Flyer once to watch QPR v Newcastle Flyer had to shut me up because I was defending Bosingwa ... In that match normal men around us changed into animals
So I challenged one or two and it was amazing how they backed down
But once the mob goes many just go along with it
Bosingwa was a very good player yet because he appeared not to care he was murdered
It will get worse
It was because Bosingwa was a good player that he deserved the stick he got imo. He just didn't try, which is unforgivable.
Is that the same Bosingwa who couldn't be arsed to get back to defend when he was at left back? Wow, world class...
My comment was really about the crowd rather than Henry but now we're talking about it...
Every Rangers fan on the planet knows Henry has had a bad start to the season and I'm not trying to defend that. He was rightly dropped against Wednesday (overdue in my opinion) but then restored to the starting line-up yesterday and had his best game so far this season, not spectacular I hasten to add but solid enough. The abuse he got yesterday was based on previous form and not his improved performance yesterday, and that's why I think certain people in the crowd were wrong to get on his back like they did yesterday.
I'm not a blindly optimistic supporter of Henry, Ramsey, Fernandes or anyone else but I do support QPR and despair when other so-called supporters jump on any opportunity to start abusing people despite a clear improvement. That's my frustration.
I suppose in the case of you francophiles a gallic shrug is more appropriate than good old British booing. I actually think the crowd at Loftus Road is very forgiving when compared to say, Newcastle or Villa where the fans bay for blood at the drop of a hat but supporting your team does not mean paying your £50 and just keeping quiet when you see such an abject failure of tactics and team selection. I wonder if Emmanuel-Thomas would even have been on the pitch to score the opener yesterday if it wasn't for the obvious disquiet among the fans at his ludicrous substitution last Tuesday? Bosingwa and Henry are problems that are diametrically opposite in terms of their cause but in both cases the manager has to take responsibility for keeping players in the team when they are no longer effective.
From when I first started supporting QPR, it seems we often have players that many (not everyone) love to hate...I remember Matthew Rose being a particularly divisive player, or maybe that was just between my brother and I. Personally speaking, it's unfair to label Henry as a bad player. He's not a super creative midfielder, a speedy winger, or a goalscorer, but he does a thankless job. He sits, breaks up the play, and gives the ball to others asap. To boo him off for a few misplaced passes seems a bit harsh.
With regard to Ramsey and how we are doing this year...we are not going up this year, which I am not surprised by, but we are not going down, which was unlikely, but not a complete impossibility. When we went down there were many of us who said we needed a few years to rebuild in the Championship and then go up with a real chance of staying up. Those who want us pushing for promotion this year need to be thinking long term, and also must remember how far off the pace we were in the Premier League last year.
With regard to Ramsey and how we are doing this year...we are not going up this year, which I am not surprised by, but we are not going down, which was unlikely, but not a complete impossibility. When we went down there were many of us who said we needed a few years to rebuild in the Championship and then go up with a real chance of staying up. Those who want us pushing for promotion this year need to be thinking long term, and also must remember how far off the pace we were in the Premier League last year.
I though Henry's days as a regular team player was gone but when we kept him I thought we can use him as a squad player. Yesterday the treatment he got was disgraceful, including so called fans telling the ref to send him off for a bad tackle. He has had some bad moments but so have a lot of the other players this season, why he has become the hate figure for some fans I just don't know. This season, like the last few years, the football has been poor, but it is not down to one player.