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Off Topic It's all Greek to me ?

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by KIO, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    I just gave pubs as one example. Another I heard about was a Welsh plumber who travelled to London for work. He got agency work servicing boilers and earned £90 for a ten hour a day.He had to supply his own van and the agency expected him to sell replacement boilers by basically lying to customers about the condition of their old ones. He would get £200 for each one sold and without that the job wasn't viable. After a fortnight he hadnt sold a boiler,so they sacked him. This is the kind of thing the Tories back. The owner of the company,Pimlico Plumbers is a big Dave supporter.
     
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  2. K E M P

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    Mmmmm, sounds like your clutching at straws a little to be honest CT. I don't doubt that such practices take place but I also think the same was happening under labour. Probably under any capitalist system.

    The budget was a good one and I'm not sure labour have anywhere to go from here. They are even backing the conservative cuts to tax credits. Labour have lost their identity completely and George Osborne has competed pulled the rug from underneath them.
     
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  3. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    Let's just see how things pan out shall we before we decide he has won. I can see trouble ahead for the Tories. On a plus note I have had an offer on my shack,so it may not be my problem as I might not be here.
     
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  4. K E M P

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    We will see I guess. The country voted them in because labour didn't appeal to the working aspirations of the nation. Until this changes can't see labour getting in.

    Good luck with the move and despite our differing opinions I have always enjoyed debating with you and hardly ever took it personally.
     
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  5. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    My feelings are that the Tories lied and Labour put up an unelectable leader. Those two things combined to give the victory to Dave.
     
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  6. K E M P

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    I don't think that labour are ambitious enough to attract voters from the hard working middle. I think this is the main reason they lost out.

    Even some normal working class people that used to be the main supporters of labour no longer trust them.
     
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  7. carrowcanario

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    I'm not sure you can say the country voted them in, even excluding those that didn't vote, more people didn't vote conservative than did. However it is fair to say that due to our non representative bastardised form of so call democracy they earned the right to form the government.
     
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  8. K E M P

    K E M P Well-Known Member

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    You mean the system that the conservatives and labour love because it keeps them as the only real contenders?
     
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    Yeap that system.
     
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    Yes, that's the one!!!! <ok>
     
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  11. Cruyff's Turn

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    Personally I would prefer manifestos to be binding. Prior to the election The Tories consistently refused to say where £12 billion welfare cuts were going to fall. If the three million working families who are going to have tax credits withdrawn were told that before the election what effect might that have had on the outcome? Similarly if Labour's commitment to not dealing with the SNP had been binding this would have had an effect too. Having said all that Miliband was a pretty crackpot choice.
     
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  12. JM Fan

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    Just seen that many firms are reporting skills shortages and that many new employees need to improve their numeracy and literacy skills - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-33478930.
    It' s time to get away from having league tables for schools, so that schools can concentrate on teaching pupils what they need to get good jobs (if they're not going to uni or further education), instead if having to concentrate on teaching subjects according to a curriculum, so that they get higher up the league tables!!!! Rant over!
     
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    Without wishing to be pedantic the SNP were an irrelevance in the overall UK result. Had labour won all 59 seats north of the border there would still be a Tory majority. If labour are to ever govern again they need to take seats in England rather than just trade seats with the nationalists in Scotland and Wales.
     
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  14. danary

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    People in England will have been put off from voting for them though because of the perceived threat of a deal with SNP.

    The way the right wing press in the UK portrayed the SNP was quite influential on the overall result, in my opinion.
     
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    Plus the way that same press pilloried Mr. Ed. Even Cameron was surprised that he won, his Tory press did him proud!
     
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    The same press that hounded Chuka and his family until he withdrew from the leadership contest as they realised he represented a serious threat to their beloved Tories.
     
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    1950canary Well-Known Member

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    Advocating the sort of system that has led to the stability in Greece, Spain and Italy are you?
     
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  18. KIO

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    I'm saying nothing, I'm fed up with falling out with people on here ;)
     
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    Not a matter of falling out KIO, you're entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is! ;)
     
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    I'm not sure this will resolve the issue.

    As far as I'm concerned the biggest influence on a childs education is the parents.

    If they read every evening their literacy will be to a very high standard by the time they reach middle school.
     
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