It's a conspiracy!

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Treble said:
Bumps says Klopp knows everything. At this point I thought we'd reached peak Twilight Zone.

Maybe we could get Klopp on the science thread to finally answer the question of whether aliens exist?
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Thread needed a poll <laugh>
 
I refuse to read a thread full of essays on every post.

I remember VAR not working last season at Anfield when it would have benefited Wolves and the ref not playing to the rules at Forest to benefit Liverpool. Bent af.

Pep is king.
 
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saintKlopp said:
Or is it?

Having briefly mentioned this on another thread I thought I’d give it its own space and see if anyone is interested.

We all feel that we have been screwed over several times by refereeing and VAR decisions this season - to the extent that it could seriously affect the final destination of the title.

Other teams have their own issues with refs and VAR, so are we guilty of only noticing it when it affects us and over-exaggerating it?
Have refs got it in for us, are they suffering from subconscious bias, or are they just not very good?
Are we casually ignoring bad decisions that go our way?

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Probably a forlorn hope I know, but I’d be interested in a sensible discussion on the topic, where rather than just make claims, we could present a cogent argument in support of them
If any visitors should stumble across the thread, I’d be interested in hearing their side of the story too - with the same proviso that they make a case, rather than just descending into the usual tribal ritual of slagging each other off. Be football fans first, and club fans second.
In the long run, it benefits all of us to have a higher standard of just and effective officiating than we’re seeing at the moment.
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Definitely a forlorn hope now .
 
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Solid_Air 2 said:
Definitely a forlorn hope now .
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Threads like this do the fans no favour tbph mate. If they wanted to have a general discussion about the poor quality of VAR decisions I think people would agree with them, but to see some playing the victim and slagging off Tierney and Taylor who I consider decent refs of having some conspiracy against Liverpoool is a joke. Nearly as bad as Jose turning on Taylor in Rome, disgusting behaviour, disgusting suggestions. Yeah humans make mistake, maybe if Liverpool actually stopped playing the victims, fate might be kinder to them. You reap what you sow I reckon and it didn't work out well for Mourinho.
 
JB2 said:
Again, not claiming conspiracy but some more interesting data, this time regarding fouls for and against (this season) reveals the following. -

called for, called against, aggregate

Liverpool .. 298 360 -62 fouls
Arsenal .. 296 267 +29 fouls
City .. 293 231 +62 fouls
Villa .. 379 327 +52 fouls
Spurs .. 398 320 +78 fouls


This shows an almost 100 foul swing between Liverpool and next closest, Arsenal. You could argue that Liverpool play more pressing style but so does Arsenal who aren’t even close to the imbalance. You could say well Liverpool play dirty which just isn’t true, especially since Fabinho and Milner left and Thiago has been out all season :). It’s just odd.

Another regular pattern of note, possession/foul ratio. For example in the Sheffield game possession was 80% - 20% and fouls 20 - 6. When you have that much possession, it’s almost impossible to out-foul the opponent by that much. Compare that to city v Arsenal - possession 73% - 27%, fouls 9 - 20, or Spurs v Everton 61% - 39%, fouls 6 - 18, numbers you would expect. The attacking team is usually not the one committing the fouls.
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No idea about data but I moan about us giving away stupid fouls in every game we're terrible for it.
 
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