Actually Denmark is claiming rights to some 12-15% more of the arctic sea. This because of some submerged mountains north of Greenland. Canada is claiming land to the west of Greenland, and there IS a dispute here. Maybe there is war potential here !
Thanks Mikra. Didn't realise it's as complicated as that. Maybe we can organise a fight between yourself and roof, winner takes all
back to the football, just watched the highlights, why was the peno not given for CR in the first half??
Carwyn Jones is a mate of mine that I used to work with before his political career took off (no I don't expect you to believe that) - trust me you really don't want Wales getting more powers. Lovely guy but daft as a proverbial brush. Take a look at the NHS and education - both monumental ****ups here in Wales and both handled by our friends in the Assembly. Wales's history is just that - history. To say you "hate the bastards" over something this generation and about 10 before that had no control over is pathetic and has led to most of the conflicts in the world. It's handed down from father to son, unfortunately, and instead of thinking for themselves it's easier to swallow the bile. But wanting independence for Wales shows a ccomplete ignorance of economics I'm afraid. Whether you like it or not Wales is one of the poorest areas of the U.K and is being kept afloat by the surging economy of the Southeast of England. Fact. This debate probably isn't for this thread but independence won't happen soon and I'm pretty sure it'll never happen thank goodness. Proud to be Welsh? Yes. Proud to be British? Absolutely! Takes all sorts I guess.
Obviously you know f**k all about the fight for the welsh language then and English attempts to kill the language. As for economic situation, read my posts clearly instead of jumping in blind and you will clearly see what I think of our current economic situation. As for handed down from father to son, you really are arrogant at times aren't you, you are the one following the royals like a sheep. I've studied welsh history, hence I'll always have a great dislike for them. Maybe if you studied the way the English have treated the welsh through the centuries, and continue to do so, you might understand that a little. Takes all sorts to learn to read and digest information thoroughly I suppose.
I think it's the first time I've agreed with Daiswan. Feels good but kinda wierd. Valley: "Obviously you know f**k all about the fight for the welsh language" Wrong. You may think I'm arrogant but like you I'm also educated. This is history. Move on and get over it. Only 70 years ago the Germans were butchering the Jews and killing Welsh soldiers on the battlefield as were the Japanese who were brutal, turning Welsh soldiers into walking skeletons in their prison camps. Whilst we should always remember and recognise what happened should we 'hate' them too? It's ridiculous to hate a people because of things done in the past by previous generations. It's a big cause of what leads to hatred in the world today. "you are the one following the royals like a sheep" Er....wrong again. I'm a republican. As you profess to have studied history then you know that you don't have to be a royalist to be pro U.K. and be proud of being British. For someone who has read history I'm shocked you make this assumption. "if you studied the way the English have treated the welsh through the centuries, and continue to do so....." Don't get this at all. England is actually propping up our economy. Devolved powers (sadly) have meant that the Assembly now controls huge swathes of our everyday lives. Next time you're on a hospital waiting list (as I am) remember that, because the things that the Assembly have control of have been royally screwed. The stats prove it. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not changing mine but to suggest I have difficulty in reading information and absorbing it is beneath you. If you're intent on debating this here - probably not a good idea or appropriate - keep it civil Mr Mod.
That is because successive governments have destroyed industries in Wales and left us with nothing. As for propping up the economy, the South East government don't give a damn about anywhere other than the South East of England and it's City workers hence the a welsh economy is weak as there is insufficient investment in terms of jobs etc in Wales. You talk about the state of the education system (deserves it's own thread), the education system is on it's knees in England with a clown like Michael Gove pulling policies out of a black hat. Maybe before comparing education systems next time it's worth noting that England spend on average over £500 more per pupil than we do in Wales, hence they can afford more teachers and additional resources etc. For Wales to be in a position to become independent, there needs to be a real alternative political party to the current Labour Party, as Labour can cock everything up in Wales and they'll still be elected into power by their blind followers, as we couldn't be no worse on our own than we already are. P.S. I enjoyed watching the All Blacks thump England this morning too
Well I disagree with almost everything there except the fact that Michael Gove is a tool. Probably not the time or place to debate it though.
anyone in swansea calling for independence from the rest of the UK needs their brains checked. isn't over 30% of the economy of swansea dependant on the government for employment? would the private sector be able to provide real jobs to replace the 'fake' jobs that would potentially go?
England were left looking like smiling idiots just happy to be at the party, Britain's newspapers said on Saturday after their humiliating early exit from the World Cup was confirmed. With England's tournament in Brazil over, Costa Rica's 1-0 win against Italy on Friday making their survival mathematically impossible after two defeats, the press began casting about for scapegoats. Newspapers vented anger at the Football Association, the national governing body, for giving manager Roy Hodgson the green light to carry on in charge, 35 minutes before England went crashing out of the tournament. The Daily Mail said it was "bloody insulting" for the FA to declare Hodgson safe in his job so quickly. Greg Dyke, "the erratic FA chairman, decided it should be the very day for him to declare his public support for his manager in what looks like a Sepp Blatter-esque display of disengaged buffoonery. "He might as well have said: 'Who cares about the fans anyway, I'll just do what I want and sod the lot of you'. The paper added: "This is as good as it gets. This is what we must expect. This is who we are now. The smiling idiots just happy to be at the party. "Dyke talks blithely of winning a World Cup in 2022 but his is an organisation devoid of ambition." The Daily Telegraph said the FA should apologise to England's fans. "They think it's all over. It is now. How those words haunt England," the broadsheet said. "The national team's latest failure... demands an apology from the FA, Roy Hodgson and the players. "The fans did not expect much, but they expected more than this; at least give them the inevitable pain of penalties. But this was humiliating, being turfed out of this wonderful party before they had hardly tasted their first caipirinha." The Guardian said the "familiar search for scapegoats and answers" was under way as it tried to work out how to apportion blame. "England's biggest names failed to ignite," it said. Meanwhile "the Premier League paradox, its huge success as a global product having squeezed the chances of young English players, is only getting worse". The Times said there was a lesson to be learned somewhere in the debacle, and it was hard to argue that English football's structure was better than Costa Rica's. "Some problems are not solved by money, by state-of-the-art facilities, by flooding the country with coaches," it said. "Some problems, such as a failure to conserve possession, are more deep-rooted. Until those issues, cultural and knotted, are solved, the country can kiss any hope of success goodbye." The Independent said the FA was using the only tactic it hadn't tried yet: standing by an England boss. However, Hodgson had the "classic demeanour of the diminished England manager: the colour drained from his skin and the grey FA suit evoked an Englishness that owed more to (1990s prime minister) John Major than James Bond." The Sun said it might be the end of the World Cup, but it was not the end of the world, urging readers to sing Monty Python's "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".
