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  1. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    As Freddd says we will never know. I think what we witnessed was public interest in a vote not seen very often. People should ask themselves why. People are very quick to say the white van, racist or xenophobic idiot is the reason we are in the situation. However what created those tensions? Slack government policy which resulted in over population, a housing crisis, and a benefit system having the piss ripped out of it amongst many other things.

    I’m surprised if that is the case that people didn’t think we’d vote to leave. Why? Were they listening to the polls (which even then only slightly favoured remain). The same polls that got absolutely nowhere near the general election result? If the silent remain vote were so arrogant they chose not to vote, it’s certainly not a reason to have a re-vote. I certainly took the leave vote very seriously because so many people I knew were energised about voting like never before. Most favouring leave.
     
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  2. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Clearly the end result was right as more people who cared about the situation voted to leave than remain.
     
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  3. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Not if you're a scientist.
     
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  4. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    In either situation not everyone will will and get what they want.
     
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  5. JakartaToon

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    Will be interesting to see the steps the goverment makes after Brexit to ensure continued access to funding in numerous fields, scientific research and agriculture being two of the major ones.

    Tbh I cant see why the scientific community will not continue to wirk together and we continue to jointly fund research projects with the EU. It will be a good test of the UK’s commitment to scientific research though.

    It is interesting the growth in EU nationals employed by high tech companies in the UK (see it in my business as well).. This seems to be due to a shortage of highly specialised postgraduates coming through UK universities due to cuts in funding for MSc and PhDs from government.
     
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  6. E.T. Fairfax

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    Plus, the Germans, who are basically leaders of the EU today, were the baddies back in the day.
     
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  7. Freddd

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    If (which is at the moment unproven) the vote was influenced by £8 million in funding illegally funnelled by Putin through a local croney in order to destabilise both Britain and Europe, would this change your minds about a second vote ?
     
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  8. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    No.
     
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  9. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    3 things currently destabilising our economy

    1) The Chequers plan
    2) Mark Carney
    3) The negative remainers
     
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  10. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    No. Again I don't think its had much impact. People didn't vote leave because Putin may or may not have funnelled some money in to influence the result. If Putin pumped money in he wasted his money because it wasn't required. The anti EU feeling was already in full flow.

    Plus if that is the case we'll have to redo every election and vote for the past 100 years. We all know this goes on. I mean how much money have the Saudis pumped into election campaigns here and in America for instance?
     
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  11. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes but some people cannot accept this decision and will be the main reason May has gone for the Chequers plan which pisses off everyone on both sides.

    The EU was originally built on lies and the public were lied to in order to get them to vote to join in the 70s but as a remainer they will forget that.

    Once again the only argument for staying in is the economy but long term wise surely even they can see that the economy will survive, thrive and prosper moreso.
     
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  12. JakartaToon

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    So what plan so you think would stabilise it then?
    Just as I dont think we should have another referendum (in fact I don’tt think we should have had the first one) I dont get this desire to blame remainers for the economy. Its natural that businesses shoud express concern. The decision to leave the EU will have far reacing consequences and they are right to push the government to negotiate the best deal they can.
     
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  13. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    At the moment it doesn't need stabilising - yes they can be concerned but the doom and gloom is wearing thin espcially as it beginning to show that that is all it is - project fear was just as bad as NHS £350M a week maybe worse.
     
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  14. Gordonthetoony

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    NO. What about Soros funding remain groups. BBC/Channel 4 totally biased against leave, ( Both receive EU funds ). Leave won despite a loaded gun against them.
     
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  15. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Hi Freddd :)
     
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