Israel, please stop this ...

Agree, but they aren't going to stop till the rats are gone.
What did Hamas( Iran) think they were going to achieve from their actions of Oct 7?

 

I don't think Hamas had a clue what they wanted to achieve, they never did and never will. They're just another group of radical terrorists who've become so entrenched in their ideology they can't get out.

Israel should stop, they're just shooting at anything that moves. They're supposed to be a decent state, like the UK, whereas Hamas are a gang of lunatics. Sadly that's exactly how Israel are behaving.

 

Agree completely. I make no apology for being a Zionist. We need to go back to 1948,for the Arabs to recognise the land of Israel within the land of Palestine,and establish their country within the otherwise Palestinian lands,ensuring that the Israelis pull back from their insurgancies into the West Bank and Gaza.
The priority is that the Palestinian people elect themselves an effective leadership,rid themselves of Iranian inspired terrorism,and proceed to the establishment of an independent Palestine,in what is a furtile and pleasant land,recognising the right of their Jewish neighbours next door to live their lives in peace.

 

Amen to all that.

 

Never understood Zionism. I understand the Jewish folks right to live in Palestine, can't say I understand their right to taking most of Palestine to form their own state.

Massive massive mess over there with no eqsy answers at this point. Assume it will keep boiling over long after we are all gone.

 

Zionism is supremacy, it isn’t about having a patch of land, otherwise they could go to any of the proposed places (madagascar, eastern russia), it is about fulfilling biblical prophecy.

 

Always dodgy ground no matter which religion you choose to follow ...

... all prophecies should be taken with a pinch of salt imo.

 

One thing I’ve learned in recent years that more people need to realise, is that even if you don’t believe in a bearded man in the sky, extremely wealthy and powerful people do and are bringing about things they believe using their wealth and power, to not know what they believe or want is to not understand why certain changes are happening in the world.

 

Sorry mate, I've read that three times and still can't grasp what you're saying.

 

People with immense power and wealth believe in biblical (torah, talmud) prophecy, they are using that power and wealth to bring it about.

For example, prophecy says “there will be a perfect red heifer (female cow) without blemish, it will be sacrificed before the building of the third temple”.

These people go, alright then here’s $500m, set up a cow breeding facility and go about creating a cow that meets the biblical prophecy.

 

That's better, got it.

It should be a lesson to people that a hundred different groups can look at exactly the same book ...

... and come up with a hundred different interpretations.

"Blood transfusion for your dying 7 year old?"

 

Some religions are worse than others, unfortunately most people don't know which is which, mostly because they’re susceptible to propaganda.

 

To be honest mate, both sides have hated and killed each other for as long as they’ve been beside eachother.

It will never stop, even if ‘ceasefires’ are made. It boils down to religion and 2 different cultures that will never accept each other.

That being said, hamas started this latest escalation and still hold Israeli hostages I believe. Until they are released Isreal have every excuse they need, it makes you wonder why hamas still hold onto them.

 

I really can't agree mate.

What Hamas did was horrendous but no worse than the IRA over the years ...

... we didn't murder thousands of Irish because the IRA were hiding amongst them.

Israel is killing their own, Palestinian women and children, Aid Workers, bombing hospitals, etc.

It's really not right imo although I understand why people think differently.

 

I understand all that mate.

It does make you wonder why Hamas would want to start such a violent escalation.

And let’s not forget, Hamas are the elected political party of Gaza, not an underground terrorist movement like the IRA.

 

Who'd have thought things could change so much eh?

 

Bombing maternity hospitals and charity food relief vehicles is not war. It is a war crime.

 

Red Heifers
https://news.yahoo.com/red-cows-texas-central-role-154831201.html

If you wonder why any of this is relevant to the current conflict, it’s because the heifer will be used in a purification ritual that signals the building of the third temple in prophecy (they have already built the altar in Jerusalem) and it is widely believed the site of the third temple is occupied by the Dome on the Rock, the third most important Mosque in Islam. Meaning they need to knock it down to build the temple. It will create a ****storm throughout the Islamic world.

The Jews have tried to do these rituals before, even before they had Israel and people were struck by lightening and spontaneously combusted (Jewish records show this, I don’t believe it, but it’s weird) but they now say other prophecies are in place.

The point is, they are provoking something much worse, a holy war and America and Europe will be expected to fight it for them, we will lose and potentially lose our countries in the process, this is also prophecised by the way, that Christianity is “swept away” by Islam, Judaism needs this to happen to fulfil prophecy. If you’re an Englishman and you support Israel you’re ignorant at best, a self destructive fool at worst.

 

I'm not being funny, that would make an absolutely brilliant fantasy novel if you set it in Middle Earth or the like.

Strange days are these.

 

The last few years have been a whacky ride, but it’s going to get worse mate.