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Is Wenger actually talking sense?

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  1. PleaseNotPoll

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    This <ok> .

    I think that they're doing the sensible thing and paying off their stadium first, but they don't want the fans to think this, as they'd be less likely to shell out for their tickets.
     
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  2. Sanj

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    According to some people inside the club we do have the money to pay the transfer fees but the board have refused to pay the wages these top players want. Its no suprise that in the end we went for young players with exceptional talents like Hazard,Goetze and M'Villa. Maybe the board and Wenger thought these guys would not demand £100k plus a week.
     
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    Your wage bill is still comparatively massive though, SSN8.
    It's over double that of Everton, for example.

    The idea that players like Arshavin and van Persie aren't on massive wages is a little laughable, frankly.
     
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  4. Sanj

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    Yes, but none of our players earn over the £100k mark. Compared to Barca,Madrid,City and co its not massive. The Arsenal wage system is to pay all the players between £40k to £80k a week. For example a perfect player to replace Fabregas would have been Sneijder. The thing is we can probaly pay the tranfer fee Inter wanted but the wages will put the club off.

    Also look at the fee we paid for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, by all reports we paid £12 million upfront for a 17 year old kid from league 1. But his wages fits the Arsenal system. So the transfer fee is not a problem. This is the reason we went for Hazard and co.
     
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    Are you really telling me that Fabregas and Van Persie are/were not on £100k+
     
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    Ensil's been fishing with grenades again, I see :D
     
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    I don't believe this is true.
    A player on £40k pw earns £2.08m pa.
    Your wage bill was £110m.
    You'd have to have about 50 players on that money and you only have around 30, many of which aren't established senior members of the squad.
     
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  8. Sanj

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    Van Persie is around the £80K mark right now. Look at what we offered Nasri, our final offer was £90k for a player that Wenger wanted to keep badly.
     
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    Is that before or after Cesc left? By all reports Van Persie is not even paid the same wages as Wayne Bridge from Man City.
     
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    Is it true that Bendtner was earning £52,000 a week hence he changed his shirt number to 52?
     
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    Isn't Arshavin on £100k? I seem to remember him expressing his surprise that he lost half of it to tax and it ended up that he was earning less than at Zenit.
     
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  13. Sanj

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    Wenger is, of course, correct. It's something many of us have been saying for some time now. Hopefully, the new UEFA FFP rules will actually have some teeth, and put a brake on the shenanigans of The Citehs of the game.
    However, UEFA would also have to standardise how all clubs in Europe negotiate their T.V. rights. It is obviously a massive advantage to Real, and Barca to be able to negotiate their own TV rights; which, as they are, by far, the two most heavily supported clubs in Spain, means that they get most of the pie to split between them.
    If that situation existed in the U.K. it would give even more of a financial advantage to the "big boys".
     
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    Simple equation:
    £80m per week + 80 brain cells = disaster looking for somewhere to happen.
     
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  16. Sanj

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    Do not have much hope for the FFP. Lets see how UEFA deal with City and their new etihad deal first.
     
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    All of those links deal with papers making claims of wages and not actually figures.
    Arsenal's wage bill was definitely £110m last season, as that was in the published accounts.
    If top players are limited in the way that you're suggesting, then either you're paying your kids a vast amount of money or you're paying your top players more that you think.

    Perhaps the youth system is as advanced as it is because of this?
    It would explain why players like Fabregas were so keen to join initially, but then became desperate to leave when they hit the wage cap.

    That cap would still be substantially higher than virtually every team that finished below you last season though, except Liverpool.
     
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  18. NSIS

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    The problem, here in Spain, Ensil, is that those two clubs are so massively well supported throughout Spain, that trying to take away their right to negotiate TV rights seperately, would be resisted very strongly, by those clubs. They carry so much clout, both financially, and politically (especially Real) that, I believe it would be very difficult to change things here in Spain. Any change would have to be through some form of Europe wide standardisation of how TV rights are negotiated.
    The fact remains, that these two have a consistently huge financial advantage over all other clubs in Spain from these rights, alone.
     
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  19. Sanj

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    The kids do earn amazing money. But all the average players earn a lot more then they should. According to Wenger, Bendtner and Alumina where in talks with other clubs but both never moved and in the end we had loan Bendtner out to Sunderland.
     
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    Ensil it´s the RFEF(Real Federación Española de Fútbol)Royal Spanish Football Federation.Hope that helps.
     
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