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Is This Mad Citeh Squad The World's Strongest?

Discussion in 'Manchester City' started by David Schofield, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    it does, and hte continuity helps a lot, City are just not long enough together for that to be possible. A steady ship as it were, Fergie had a rocky time in the first couple of years and thats without a host of players arriving with egos attached, so I think considering everythng, money does not fix all Madrid? so Mancini is getting a bit of stick for what? doing a decent job under a lot of pressure.

    When Mancini is there at least 5 6 years and is allowed to build a team and not have to deal with the owners whim, Chelsea, then I think we can compare to the teams fairly. Integrating a player that has played with the squad and trained with them, evans and also without baggage star mentality, Jones a good young talent, not so bad a situation especially at the start of hte season when they have great energy levels. VDS the biggest loss for me, but De Gea? looks a good keeper. There are egos at City and Fergie doesn't do individual egos, a big difference, but if Mancini can nullify that it is a big step in the right direction. oh btw 21 out of 38 is not most teams on most days, thats nealy 50%. thats all the teams half the time:)

    I think it is time for a shock league winner, Wolves anyone?:)
     
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  2. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I guess it all depends on how you view the squads. I think Jones wasn't brought on against West Brom as it would have been his first PL game for us so SAF wanted the additional experience. Not sure I agree that Lescott is better than Smalling or Jones right now, although he's ahead of Evans. But then that's one backup CB that City have, and three that Utd have.

    Again, the Silva thing is more a matter of depth. Berbatov can be a replacement for Rooney, as he did very effectively last year, and so can Young. And if Rooney is out of form, as Utd showed last year, the axis of attack can shift to the wings and Nani, Valencia and Young can just sling crosses in for the strikers or score a few themselves. City don't have the same level of squad flexibility imo, although Nasri and Aguero will improve this. In attack it's not necessarily about the players, but more about the ability to mix it up and compensate for what you are missing when the big players are injured or out of form. Utd and Liverpool both did this better in the second half of the season than City, imo, and also better than Chelsea did when Lampard and Drogba were out in November.

    Imo Mancini gets more stick for his individual decisions and approach than the actual results. I think he'd be under much less pressure if he played more expansive and attacking football with the players he has available, rather than playing so cautiously, like a mid table side trying to punch above their weight. He's probably also going to get unfavourable comparisons to the likes of Mourinho who faced the same problem but succeeded right from the start.

    Like you say, give him time and then see. But then again, not all managers improve with time - Wenger for example seems to be getting worse as time goes on and he makes the same mistakes over and over until they are ingrained into the team. The worry with Mancini is that his inbred caution may sink too deep into City and damage the attacking ability of players like Aguero and Silva.

    21 out of 38 is 55% of games. That's roughly the equivalent of beating 75% of teams 75% of the time (0.75 * 0.75 = 0.56) :p

    Stick a tenner on them and you'll be laughing if that comes up ;)
     
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  3. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    Or 100% 55% of the time, it works both ways I guess which ever side of the fence you stand on, it is not enough to win the league in general which is the main point I suppose.


    And no, not throwing away a tenner, if there was a snowballs then yeah I might give it a go, but c'mon.:)

    UNited have hte edge over city n terms of several factors but.. as you know, you gotta win the games and have the bottle right to the end and scoop up a bit of luck along the way too.


    Agree time doesn not nessessarily make a manager better. But I will say this, Mancini will not get as long as Wenger is getting without some success, so, if he doesn't make progress and challenge, he won't be there in 5 years.


    Maybe Rafa is on the way to City in the near future
     
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    Their defense barely outperformed United's by 4 goals last season in the League, but a lot of that is down to the fact they played so defensively in midfield, which is also why United ended up scoring 18 more.

    As for Clichy improving their defense, that's definitely up for debate as I personally think Clichy was always one of Arsenal's weak points in defense. His positional sense is terrible and he dives in constantly often leaving himself exposed or giving away dangerous free kicks, Kolarov is a better full back but even he isn't great.
     
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  5. David Schofield

    David Schofield Member

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    That Clichy was a poor acquistion is, on the face of it, a statement of the bleeding obvious.

    But having played in an Arsenal side that gave scant regard to the defensive side of the game, he could well have been over exposed and overworked on far too regular a basis. It will be interesting to see how he develops at Citeh in a more defensively minded setup.
     
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  6. MUFCOK

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    A whole less about what? City aren't like some team you know. They are our bitter rivals. I will care whatever position they finish. Whether they are our title challengers (unlike your lot) or 16th so we can laugh at them.

    Pointless person you mate.
     
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  7. tevezrightboot

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    MUFCOK:- guess what all Man City fans will have a good laugh when the rags fail to win anything this eason. Guess your just jealous aren't you. Directors who only care about themselves and don't care a fig about the club.

    What's it like wearing a Norwich City scarff now thats funny.
     
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  8. MUFCOK

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    Wow. I don't know what I said to offend you to come out with that but here it goes...

    Guess what all United fans will be laughing at City fans when you win **** all AGAIN. Yes even small teams win the FA Cup sometimes (Portsmouth 2008) You'll be embarrassed in the first round of the Champions League as well.

    What did it feel like watching United become the most successful club in the land while we are £500m in debt? You spend that in one summer and all you get is an FA Cup and 3rd? Pathetic. Imagine what we would be like if we had your money eh? A league and a Champions League Final whilst £500m in debt? Yep the Blue moon sure is rising <laugh>
     
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  9. Gazautd

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    Because the sheiks were born an bred in Manchester??!!Come on..IT'S BUSINESS TO THEM!!!
     
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  10. Ze

    Ze Well-Known Member

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    MUFCOK you certainly know how to make a cock of yourself <laugh>
     
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    smegma
     
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  12. Ze

    Ze Well-Known Member

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    No need to go into detail as to what you have all over your head.
     
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  13. MUFCOK

    MUFCOK Active Member

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    <laugh> Give me a good laugh did that.

    Funny you should say that though I have had my head nestled snug in your mothers crevis. I wonder what she has been up to with all that smegma in there...
     
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  14. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    A strong squads not all about famous names, lots of players and big expensive transfer fees.

    Its only a strong squad if they gel, are all happy with their individual roles in the squad and all respect each other. I don't think City have that yet.

    Bolton showed their defensive issues last week
     
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    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i think this is rather simple. city have the most unbalanced team, the team with most risk of unrest especially with guys like bellamy and adebayor floating about.

    but most of all with barry, de jong and the like in central midfield... well lets just say its not the best squad in england let alone the world... as per usual, english bias saying city best in world
     
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  18. Swarbs

    Swarbs Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Well 'Arry's hardly going to turn around and go "we only managed to get Adebayor on lon cos he's just a poor man's Dzeko" is he? By bigging up the City squad he manages to dodge the fact that his biggest signing of the season is City's fifth choice striker... <ok>
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    simply put spurs have over spent like leeds did to get to the cl, they failed and now they are looking at 6th best case...... they must be worried and happy harry has been making excuses since they went out of the CL.

    its actually quite funny and i'm suprised levy hasn't shut him up by now or even moved to the next step which is publically slapping him down seeing he won't shut up... why? because happy harry's excuses are going to set thier players expectations.... VDV to leave within 12months, modric wants out, after that thye are distinctly average.. blae? please if you lump 15 balls across each game aimlessly one will connect!
     
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  20. Sweet Fantastic

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    Lets face it.........ciddy have always had this cloud of ****ing it up following them throughout their 'history'................
    Uniteds wealth was orignally generated by success & their aura as an attacking force.................ciddy have arab owners throwing it about, which is detrimental to the the EPL!!!
    It'll end in tears, as it always does for them and I will be personally laughing my head off when it happens................"c'mon ciddy' will soon be wafting down from the stand at the council house no time soon!!!
     
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