Is this a fair assessment?

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Oldsparkey

Oldsparkey

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Different opinions are what football is all about, but I can't help feeling this is far too critical.

Maybe a neutral outsider's view is more objective than ours, but I still don't believe he's been given a fair crack of the whip. Not sure why Warnock bought him as he said he didn't believe he was a striker - so what is he then?

https://www.itsroundanditswhite.co....expensive-gamble-on-bobby-reid-hasnt-paid-off
 
Oldsparkey said:
Different opinions are what football is all about, but I can't help feeling this is far too critical.

Maybe a neutral outsider's view is more objective than ours, but I still don't believe he's been given a fair crack of the whip. Not sure why Warnock bought him as he said he didn't believe he was a striker - so what is he then?

https://www.itsroundanditswhite.co....expensive-gamble-on-bobby-reid-hasnt-paid-off
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I think it is harsh.

If he was playing 70+ mins a game I'd agree with their assessment, but he's not. They say that was his first goal for 2 months, buy how many mins has he played in that time?

Think he's an attacking midfielder / no 10. But we don't line up yo support that.
 
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The way we play doesn't suit him. He will thrive when the team has more possession and the mid field can thread balls through to him. He can never be a target man but operates well alongside a big no. 9 who can win the ball consistently.

Whether he ever does that with us or elsewhere, who knows.
 
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Playing gunner, camamarasa and arter in the mid 3 means there isn't space for him unless you line him up right or left of a front 3.

If you played 2 of the 3 in front of the back 4 he could play in the middle of an attacking 3 behind the striker, but Colin doesn't set up that way.

Who'd be a manager?

For me, if Reid, NML, Harris, peltier, ralls and others only play cameos but chip in with the odd goal, put their bodies on the line defensively, graft away to pick up points, they'll have earned their corn.
It's a squad game and everyone needs to contribute.
 
The days of a small guy playing of a big number 9 are long gone. Unless Dave Jones comes out of retirement.

His best chance is behind the front man.
 
The way it's panned out and in retrospect, buying Reid was a mistake. Easy to say that now after nearly half a season but there is no way he'll fit into Warnock's starting pattern. He'll only ever get a bit part involvement in the last 15 minutes of games and that really isn't fair to the lad.

With Paterson deservedly a fixture, starting Reid up top or even as a "No. 10" would really mean going narrow or dropping a genuine midfielder. There's no way we could afford not to start 3 specialist midfielders or our back 4 would be overun. Gunnar/Arter do a good destroying job in the middle and at the moment Camarasa provides the drive forward. You could swap him for Reid but I wouldn't.

The only real option is to just go with one wide man and expect your full back to provide the width on the other side. So who would you leave out - Murphy, Mendez or Hoilett?
 
An interesting conundrum to have. Unfortunately none of them Prem quality at the moment. NML looks like he can do well once fully fit - seems to have gained a little timber in his time off.

However, using a winger either side to create a 5 in midfield and 3 up top when going forward seems our preferred formation.

Have to see who comes in during the window and where their attributes fit.
 
If Zahore was in form I think Reid would have played a lot more.

Paterson is no centre forward and Reid needs to play off a #9.
 
Agree with most comments here.

Interesting point made by the authors article about whether he was prematurely bought and could have done with another season in championship.

Works well for some if they’ve really got what it takes eg Maddison but for others it’s a harsh learning curve.
 
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Not seen much of you boys. He looks a busy player but probably doesn't have the strength of patterson and not sure you're the side to be playing nice through balls to him (or whether he's making the right runs). Articles a bit harsh on his stats. He's barely played and most of his games have been against the top 6 when you guys were settling into the league.

I hate it when these articles full of exaggeration come out and someones a failure when they have done x,y,z without looking at some of the details.

7 games where he's had 60+ minutes (bournemouth, leicester, fulham, liverpool, arsenal, chelsea, man city)

Admittedly you've picked up a bit of form and they might have coincided with his benching but he's not really 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 full games and 6 sub appearances is okay if not spectacular

Madisson has 3 goals more in 14 full games and 2 sub appearances. Hardly the stuff of miracles (goal threat looks bigger but leicester are a far better side and he's taking all the set pieces)

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Hi Cardiff-type people.

I think you guys have correctly identified that Reid needs to play in a certain role to prosper, so it's perhaps unfair to write him off as 'not cut out for this level'.

His strengths are first and foremost his work-rate, so he's great at running down defenders to force mistakes, and his quick feet to work in tight spaces.

I must say I was surprised when Cardiff signed him because he isn't what I would think of as a typical Neil Warnock type player, so if he was signed without a role to suit him planned, it could be said that was a mistake. He has qualities to make an impression, but maybe it'd be easier to integrate him as a support-striker where goals aren't necessarily the best barometer to judge him by.
 
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Hi Cardiff-type people.

I think you guys have correctly identified that Reid needs to play in a certain role to prosper, so it's perhaps unfair to write him off as 'not cut out for this level'.

His strengths are first and foremost his work-rate, so he's great at running down defenders to force mistakes, and his quick feet to work in tight spaces.

I must say I was surprised when Cardiff signed him because he isn't what I would think of as a typical Neil Warnock type player, so if he was signed without a role to suit him planned, it could be said that was a mistake. He has qualities to make an impression, but maybe it'd be easier to integrate him as a support-striker where goals aren't necessarily the best barometer to judge him by.
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I said much the same a few days ago.
 
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