NO ITS ****ING NOT! Get out of your ass. You know plain well SAHIN IS NOT CLOSE TO BEING IN THE SAME BRACKET AS MESSI. A player of Sahin's quality would need to adapt A player of Messi's quality will still need to adapt but he'll adapt way faster. Use your head next time.
Right, f*ck it, you're really annoying me. I didn't say he was as good as Messi! I just used him as an example of the fallacy of the other guy's logic.
Who the **** mentioned a different system? I didn't... You kept digging a hole for yourself after you made a stupid comment. I only said he would face competition for a place, not that anyone else is better. Even Lassana Diarra got played more in his position last year even when the DM position was already covered. If you think a player from another league can just walk into a team facing no competition from its established players (as congested as our midfield is right now) you are being incredibly naive.
Really? Because using 2 players obviously different calibers to prove a point that was wrong in the first place isn't annoying.
For that matter even M'Vila wouldn't have a secure place in our midfield... ---- Cazorla ---- Wilshere -- Arteta would still be the combination to beat.
Yes, but there's no guarantee that Wilshere will still be a class player when he eventually returns. It'll take him a few months to shake off the rust.
Yes, but there's no guarantee Sahin will be a class player when/if he goes to the Prem. It'll take him a few months/weeks to adapt.
So let's derail this thread from it's negativity and look at the other half of the thread title. Jesus Navas - Tricky quick spanish winger - yes please. He'd start for us and although people say only if Walcott is on his way out - i'd bring him in anyway as long as we get Arshavin off the books.
Last Year: It was and given our injury record how will RvP stay fit? And guess what he did. Stayed fit.
We won't sign Navas, nothing to do with incompetence though. The guy suffers from severe homesickness, he even has to take medicine for it if playing away. There is no way he will leave Sevilla for us, and risk his health in the process. Shame, he's an excellent player, but if last season taught us anything, it's that a players health is far more important than anything else.
We took a massive risk with Persie last season and got very lucky. If he had got injured we had absolutely no cover. We need to have a DM in the squad even if he's not an automatic starter every week
Always sounded like a fabricated story to me. He suffers from extreme homesickness, so much so that even staying in another Spanish city for a few days is too much for him. Moving to England seems a little far-fetched to me.
But someone who played 10 games last season moving to a new league and team is going to slot in right away? Anyway BBC are reporting that Liverpool have got him, apparently it's a £5m loan fee and £14m option to buy at the end.
Yep, and we had Reyes who was homesick. Don't think we will take a 'gamble' on Navas, although I really like him as a player. I wouldn't mind missing out on Sahin, but only if we're going for a proper holding midfielder. We need a player like M'Vila, Capoue etc. more than deep-lying playmaker. I'm not sure whether Sahin would have made our starting eleven if everyone was fit anyway. The only thing which will piss me off is the fact the little Europa League playing Scousers actually believe that they have done one over us. I hope it turns out like when they apparantly snatched other players right under our noses (and got extremely happy about it)...the likes of Ryan Babel or Stewart Downing.
They have actually done one over us though, they signed the player we were after, they showed more initiative, credit to them for that. And i don't see him turning out like Babel or Downing, because Sahin is actually excellent. And we really need someone if Jack really is out for 3 more months now. At this stage, anyone will do. Except Biglia, because thats just being desperate.
So he would basically cost 20 million pounds to buy, ridiculous price when he cant even get into there team, no wonder we pulled the plug. He is also on 115,000 per week, we wouldn't pay him that, so he would probably have to take at least a 35,000 pound per week pay cut, if we did sigh him permanently, and there would be no way he would do that, no wonder it's a dead duck.
He got injured at the start of last season, missed a while, and couldn't force his way into the lineup that eventually won the league.
They may think they have got one over on us; They paid an extortionate price for a good player, who may or may not adapt to the PL. (Would have said the same thing if it had been us) He is not match fit, having been out for a portion of last season with injury. It remains to be seen whether he will adapt immediately or take time to adjust (Would have said the same thing if it had been us). We shall see.
