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Is the world at a dangerous crossroad?

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by invermeremike, Feb 21, 2022.

  1. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Putin is a good listener at any time and we know he can't be trusted at all. The only real real chance of peace is if the Russian population who know the truth rebel and take to the streets to oust a dictator who like all the rest of them is only interested in what it means for him in the glory stakes. He will get his just rewards for his brutality when the rest of the world says no more unless you want the full meal deal when it comes to retaliation. The deaths are almost reaching Stalingrad proportions but that was a just war for the Russians and was instrumental in deciding the outcome of WW2 but Ukraine is a vanity choice solely by Putin to re-form the Soviet Union. I often wonder if there would come a time when some of his sidekicks decided to leave the mess to Putin alone and perhaps they could broker a deal that saved their own backsides from dangling at the end of a rope? Many tried to leave Hitler's fast sinking ship but they all met a brutal end but the stakes for the entire world is hanging on something radical happening and the best one for me was for some intelligent Russian to hand the beast over to the Western powers to do with him as they may.
     
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    Could the outcome depend and who wins the US elections and how they decide to act?
     
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  3. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    Thats what Putrid may be gambling on, certainly the opening up of more aid and weaponary is going to reduce the Russian numbers.
    Azoz battalion has now got access to US weaponary and also the SPG-9 A LETHAL night time weapon .. developed from an original weapon now 80 plus years old! these troops are now slowly causing untold casualties?
    Russia is not safe from UKR drones as they are able to deliver in excess of 200 miles into Russia.

    Putrid also today got rid of 4 members of his defence ministry workers and replaced them with close/ or family members... getting a bit worried? Someone one day might make the effort!!!!!!!!!! there must be a few 000's grieving families that curse the day he signed up their kin for certain death!
     
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  4. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Regrettably Ashton if Trump gets elected he will cut off all aid to Ukraine as he has clearly stated all along. I would like to think that saner heads would prevail and overrule that possibility with their negative votes in either houses but unfortunately you are dealing with Republicans who follow the jerk at his every bidding. The best result obviously would be a win for Biden, whether you approve of sleepy Joe or not, and right now below the radar Trump is rapidly losing face by his madcap rantings at his rallies which is turning off some of his most rabid supporters and those are the people that he can't lose at any cost. The soon to be announced sentencing for his crimes may hit him hard as well because as he himself said the other day after Biden's son was found guilty (and rightly so) "Would you want a President who has a son guilty of a crime to be your next person in the White House?" Can you actually believe he said that - yes he did and then claimed he is of sound mind.

    As an aside on this today I looked at all the various teams competing at the Euros and wondered why someone didn't see this tournament as an opportunity to show case European unity against Putin and his crazed murdering mob? Perhaps that's why all of the kids coming out on the pitch look as if they are wearing the colours of Ukraine and maybe before the final there should be a speech telling the thug to stop his evil ways because what you have witnessed at the Euros is the only way to go for peace's sake.
     
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    If Trump gets elected he win stop aid to Ukraine, because the American people are sick of their taxes going to a war that's nothing to do with them and not even on the same continent. The same can't be said of their support for Israel which most (normal) people support.
    Trump will also swiftly end the Russia Ukraine war.
     
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    UKR it is reported took out 22 fuel tanks [ bigger than Avonmouth storage area!!! last evening 2nd night in a row they have done so. Drone warfare for them seems extremely successful.

    latest figures published are that over 1200 Russians were fatal or wounded in past 24 hours now total is growing faster than ever before as they throw un experienced troops to their slaughter in an attempt to gain ground...........
    this must stop soon surely EVEN Putrid cant be that evil! or is just now gone past the point of being a greedy evil egoist to believing he is untouchable and the worlds worst ever murderer!
     
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  7. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    The North Korea/ Russia meetings have determined that they will cover each other's backs due to the international attacks against their regimes. Please remind me what aggressive acts have been inflicted upon either of these pariahs when all the brutal intent is only going one way and that is to undermine everyone that doesn't treat their population like mushrooms? We need to stand our ground at all costs and forget anything about Trump having any positive affect on the situation because he just wants a cuddle from both of the munchkins running amok with world's future.
     
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    Sadly The only way I can see Trump ending the war quickly, is to hand it on a plate to Russia by stopping American funding
     
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    That is exactly what he wants to do and the repercussions for Europe could be devastating given what the Russian bear has already on his resume. We live in a much more international world than we did during WW2 and even then the Americans only came to Europe's aid after Pearl Harbour. The global nature of todays world means those who felt they were immune back in the 40's due to their distance from the actual front need to adjust their thinking as modern weaponry can reach every backwater site with the push of a button or app. I can understand why people don't want their hard earned money going to defend a place that most Americans don't even know exists and given their propensity for pushing their heads so far up Trump's backside is it any wonder? Americans and their one sided politics, based on total lack of knowledge of most things non-American and worrying more about taking their country back into the dark ages for women regarding birth control and other sensitive matters, will never get what the rest of the sane world is talking about because America actually means World to them. Ask any American what is the significance of the 49th parallel and they look back at you like you live on the dark side of the moon rather than in Canada just over here from there. <doh>
     
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    not heard much about the sea drones lately. are they building up for a biggy!
     
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    I was rathe hoping that a certain airliner would accidentally fall out of the sky, rather like Pryzoghin's, or perhaps the top class limousine that changed hands over there would be filled with fireworks for later use. A laser guided mega-bomb would have been welcome somewhere else yesterday during all the pomp (you will attend - or else) and ceremony (you will wave a flag and cry - or else) to welcome the esteemed visitor. :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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    well UKR is certainly giving the Russian oil refineries a hammering 4 more this morning!
    Not much else happening except for Putrid to keep on threatening NUCLEAR posturing and what he might do with regard to if they look like losing!
    July seems to be the date for delivery of 12 F16's .. so providing they have enough ammo / weapons for them then might be a bit of a difference to the frontline.
    The Kerch Bridge nust still be a TARGET for UKR? they were targetting all the air defence points around Crimea so must be trying to spread their air deefences? with attacks on nearby targets inside Russia.
     
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    Does Ukraine have any new air power yet? Despite this lengthy process of getting the jets, training the pilots and then getting them up and operational I still haven't heard yet that they are actually ready to go.
     
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    line 3 above!
     
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    I was on u tube over the weekend and there is a number of "sites" that post real footage of UKR drone activities. Of course not all drones get the same results but there must be a big attrition to Russian troops from what is posted if some of the "strikes" are replicated say just 20 times !

    the latest weapon to come to light is a sniper rifle with a range of 1.5 km or more [ holds world record for accurate shot ] bullet took 10 secs to reach target .... sniper had packed his weapon and was ready to move before bullet hit .. his observer confirmed the target fell ... presumed dead .. or wounded!
    think the velocity [ muzzle ] was 960 mph ? about 14,000 feet a second?

    the target would from a longer distance never get to know where it came from ... can fire 8 shots rapidly so crowded area exact spot on not relevant as bullets arrive silently and quickly ...
     
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    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    And who has this super rifle the Ukrainians or the other lot? The latest awful decision by SCOTUS making presidential crimes legal if they are from the Republican side of the legal fence. This Trump dictated decision is another nail in the coffin of U.S. democracy and makes him virtually untouchable and after the Biden disaster of the other night it makes me fear even more for the outcome of their election. Should Trump lose then I think some kind of major confrontation is headed to the streets of L.A. and many others because he has virtually said it will only be considered a fair and free election if he wins the ticket. I know we can't turn back the clock but Biden's biggest mistake was running at all and his hatred for Trump should not have played a part and his second mistake was giving Harris the V.P. spot. He should have chosen a strong white male who could be now running in place of Biden if he had a strong public persona giving him something extra special against the ugly one. Unless the American public wake up in time to see that Trump is taking them all for mugs and will destroy many of the freedoms they have today and will change forever the future political landscape of the Ununited States of America, and they could virtually be at some form of Civil War because there are millions unwilling to accept dictatorship in any form.
     
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    RUSSIA OFFERS FREE VODKA FOR LIFE to shoot down the newly delivered F16's ... a multi task plane that can be very dangerous!
     
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    The ****er is dangerous more interested in the Muslim and Hamas than our own.

     
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    So these waltz to downing street and no police about-this country is ****ed.

     
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    So he'll crack down on people supposedly rioting because of the deaths of 3 innocent little girls (not that I believe that excuse for one minute) but the Government won't do anything about the thugs who threaten Jews on the street with rape or violence, or those who call for Jihad or death to the west in public. These are all crimes, so treat them all the same and lock people up ffs !

    What a wonderful 5 years we have to look forward to. He is as misguided, misinformed and ignorant as the last lot.

    I get people are upset with what happened initially in Southport and rightly so, but trashing a town where people are grieving, and burning Police cars and injuring Coppers just isn't the answer.
     
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