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Is Racism worse than Violence in football? Warning - Harsh language.

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Darth Plagueis, Jun 27, 2014.

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  1. Beardsley's Rancid Sack

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    My Sikth neighbour uses the P word alot.
     
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  2. Rum & Black for 2

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    Racism is not confined to caucasians. Most, if not all, ethnic groupings are guilty of it unfortunately.
     
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  3. weararedbonnet

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    I can't divulge what my work involves, but I come across all races and creeds in my work from Newcastle to Portsmouth and from Skegness to Southport. The most helpful are the Asian Indians , closely followed by the Jewish community.

    Yet the most obnoxious pompous arrogant git I ever came across was a middle England white guy in his 30's. Never have I been so close to decking a client, but fortunately I had the common sense to walk away.

    Got to admit Geordieland is the best area in the UK to work, with Portsmouth running you a very close second.
    The two worst areas are Scouseland and Bournemouth. Scouseland is self explanitory, Bournemouth is full of affluent and rude coffin dodgers
     
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  4. Howe's about that then?

    Howe's about that then? Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how much weight your point about Hitler and Ceaser etc carries. They were real people and real names... admittedly they're not particularly fashionable these days but they were real names that a few wrong uns ruined.

    N*#@&r the dog is just offensive. It's not a proper name, to my knowledge anyway, making it unnecessary and offensive
     
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  5. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    There was a remake of sorts made recently, a docu-drama for the anniversary, and I think in the end they decided to stick with the original name for historical accuracy but also put a warning on screen in advance recognising that it is an offensive name and term.
     
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  6. weararedbonnet

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    My point is that ****** was the name of Gibson's dog. He was just a plain black labrador, and was killed on the night of the dambusters raid, which was the turning point in the history of the RAF, which was the first time the RAF had managed accuracy, and helped turn the tide of the war. Gibson got the VC for his efforts, and was later killed when he was shot down after leading another bombing raid as master bomber.

    ******s grave is still at RAF Scampton, outside one of the hangers, and in view of Gibson's office.

    It isn't racist, it was the correct name of the bloody dog!!! the dog was also the mascot of the squadron, and 53 aircrew were killed on the raid. We owe it to all of the ones that perished, and the rest to stick to the facts. So we change the name of a dog just to be politically correct? How stupid is that
     
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    And at the time that Gibson chose that name for a black labrador it was also the name used by white people for black people both here and in the States. We recognise how wrong that is, so its not a simple case of historical accuracy. Personally, I dont have an issue with the original name being used for the dog in a historical drama. I also understand that may not be the view of the black community and can understand why.
     
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  8. Howe's about that then?

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    I'm gonna have to hold my hands up there. I'm a bit ashamed actually, especially as It's armed forces day, but I'm man enough to admit I'm wrong.
    I've never seen Dam busters and didn't know it was historically accurate. On that basis, leave the name as is
     
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  9. weararedbonnet

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    Spend some time on the net Luke, and read up on the Dambusters. We all hear too often about footballers being called heroes, but if you study the lives of bomber crews during WW2, it brings home the true meaning of hero. The average age of bomber crews was 22, and their life expectancy was 4 months
     
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  10. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    N***** - a word which demonized, subjugated and inferred inferiority. Heavily punished for use in and around a pitch used for football, a game of equals. Problem?

    As a message to the world, the fact they ban players heavily for racist incidents seems sensible policy. There's no significant proportion of the population ready to jump up and assault someone, but if you've ever talked to an older person, then you know the same is not true of racism. Our generation, Tash, is a generation which has benefited from the educational value of sports that has been put in motion, so of course we don't see racism as a big deal. We are rarely confronted by it now. The fact they continue to show such a hard-line in sports can only be a good thing in limiting the ignorance that spews forth such crap.

    I could go on at length about the evolutionary necessity of discrimination, whether on racial grounds or otherwise, and the significant value it subconsciously brings in building relationships within social groups, but at the end of the day, it's the 21st ****ing century and we should be above sniffing each other's **** and laughing at jokes about people's ethnic identities.
     
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